Redskins-Rams: Postgame Thoughts

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

He's fumbled away 2 games for us, so label me unimpressed by him.

You're goddamn right he has, but everyone wants to give him a pass because he's behind Clinton and has had 5 straight 100 yard games, guess what? They haven't won that many of em. He's fumbled away 2 games this season on drives that should have given the team the lead. This one would have put the game away. Nice job, punk, now I'm glad you were injured for the majority of your career.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jdlea

You're goddamn right he has, but everyone wants to give him a pass because he's behind Clinton and has had 5 straight 100 yard games, guess what? They haven't won that many of em. He's fumbled away 2 games this season on drives that should have given the team the lead. This one would have put the game away. Nice job, punk, now I'm glad you were injured for the majority of your career.

Betts fumbled away two games? That's a bunch of BS. One play does not lose any game. The defender made a great play on the strip. Sometimes you gotta tip your hat to the other team. Bulger is a really good pocket passer and he just carved up our secondary. They were just better today and made more plays. For you to attack Betts by saying your glad he was injured for the majority of his career TOTALLY CLASSLESS. As a Redskin fan you should calm your ass down before writing such stupid things.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Betts fumbled away two games? That's a bunch of BS. One play does not lose any game. The defender made a great play on the strip. Sometimes you gotta tip your hat to the other team. Bulger is a really good pocket passer and he just carved up our secondary. They were just better today and made more plays. For you to attack Betts by saying your glad he was injured for the majority of his career TOTALLY CLASSLESS. As a Redskin fan you should calm your ass down before writing such stupid things.

I will agree that it is classless to wish injury on someone, I've said that a million times and only fell into that because I've been drinking. However, that play lost the game today. You can't argue that. If he just gets tackled, or puts two hands on the football, the Skins win the game. You really can't give me any kind of credible argument against that. If you say the D should have made the stop, I'll agree, but it never should have happened like that. That play cost that team the chance to put the game away. Drunk or not, you won't convince me otherwise.

Oh, and the fact that 2 potential go ahead drives this season ended with Betts fumbles, kinda supports my argument...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I will agree that it is classless to wish injury on someone, I've said that a million times and only fell into that because I've been drinking. However, that play lost the game today. You can't argue that. If he just gets tackled, or puts two hands on the football, the Skins win the game. You really can't give me any kind of credible argument against that. If you say the D should have made the stop, I'll agree, but it never should have happened like that. That play cost that team the chance to put the game away. Drunk or not, you won't convince me otherwise.

Oh, and the fact that 2 potential go ahead drives this season ended with Betts fumbles, kinda supports my argument...

You just can't blame a loss on one play. It makes no sense. Yes he should not have fumbled. But honestly that was a great play by the defender and not too many RB's would have held on to the ball in that situation. The defense gave up over 500 YARDS OF OFFENSE.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You just can't blame a loss on one play. It makes no sense. Yes he should not have fumbled. But honestly that was a great play by the defender and not too many RB's would have held on to the ball in that situation. The defense gave up over 500 YARDS OF OFFENSE.

Maybe a couple years ago or even in the 90's you could say one play should not decide a game, but unfortunately with the closeness of all NFL games one play costs teams many of games. Each game in many cases we were one play away from winning and won and few we lost by one play. That is just the way it is.

The Bears are considered one of the elite teams, how many games have they won by one play, namely a person by the name of Hester. Cowboys lost to us by one play. ONE PLAY can be blamed when your talking wins and losses, but overall performance is out the door because many teams don't play consistenetly good week after week they have the one play go their way or against them.

In this case the D performance was the reason the Rams stayed in the game, Betts fumble lost us the game.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Wow, I might have to banish my own thread to thread hell.

EVERYONE needs to chill out. If you're too pissed to see straight (which would be understandable), wait until you have calmed down to post. Engaging in personal attacks on the site is not only really lame and typically reserved for the resident 12 year olds, but its a bannable offense. So, let's play nice and look forward to next week's game where we'll keep the Gmen outta the playoffs and watch their team implode.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Wow, I might have to banish my own thread to thread hell.

EVERYONE needs to chill out. If you're too pissed to see straight (which would be understandable), wait until you have calmed down to post. Engaging in personal attacks on the site is not only really lame and typically reserved for the resident 12 year olds, but its a bannable offense. So, let's play nice and look forward to next week's game where we'll keep the Gmen outta the playoffs and watch their team implode.

lol! It's probably best not to post threads about who or what lost a game for us on the sameday that we lose a very winnable overtime game.

Anyways, after everybody opens their Christmas presents up tomorrow, they will calm down, reflect on today, and realize that our team's reasons for losing really comes down to a very thin secondary. Betts' fumble, although hurt us, wasn't why we lost the game today, neither was clock management. Heck, I thought our offense was extremely solid today.

Adding depth to our secondary next year shows us a division winning team that has home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by jdlea

You're goddamn right he has, but everyone wants to give him a pass because he's behind Clinton and has had 5 straight 100 yard games, guess what? They haven't won that many of em. He's fumbled away 2 games this season on drives that should have given the team the lead. This one would have put the game away. Nice job, punk, now I'm glad you were injured for the majority of your career.

You sound like a guy who was waiting on Betts to mess up so that your argument for Portis would stand up. Betts is an outstanding rusher who got the ball stripped away....point blank...it happens.

Clinton has not brung a superbowl to Washington himself

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

You sound like a guy who was waiting on Betts to mess up so that your argument for Portis would stand up. Betts is an outstanding rusher who got the ball stripped away....point blank...it happens.

Clinton has not brung a superbowl to Washington himself

Betts is showing that he can be a great backup/relief pitcher when healthy. He is no Portis, though, and I, respectfully, believe that some of the "Betts is better than/equal to Portis" arguments are silly given everything we know about both players.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Betts is showing that he can be a great backup/relief pitcher when healthy. He is no Portis, though, and I, respectfully, believe that some of the "Betts is better than/equal to Portis" arguments are silly given everything we know about both players.

This season, Betts has done better with his oppertunities (although it's splitting hairs). But what gets lost on some is that Portis was badly injured from the first drive this year on. That's why his relative effectiveness was down. Not because Betts is better for the system, and not because of some crazy Brunell theroy.

Next year, we will have him healthy (god willing), and he will be even better than Betts this year. More importantly, he will have fresh legs, something he didn't have this year after getting 350+ touches last year.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by riggoraider

You sound like a guy who was waiting on Betts to mess up so that your argument for Portis would stand up. Betts is an outstanding rusher who got the ball stripped away....point blank...it happens.

Clinton has not brung a superbowl to Washington himself

No, I wish they had won the football game. I would be highly critical of Clinton had he fumbled that football. And I don't need one football game to make my Portis argument stand up. I can point to a lot of other things, but I've already done that ad nauseum and won't be doing it again. Betts is a good back, but he's not on Clinton's level. I'll take Clinton 7 days a week over Betts. If you disagree, that's fine...I really couldn't care less anymore.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by jdlea

No, I wish they had won the football game. I would be highly critical of Clinton had he fumbled that football. And I don't need one football game to make my Portis argument stand up. I can point to a lot of other things, but I've already done that ad nauseum and won't be doing it again. Betts is a good back, but he's not on Clinton's level. I'll take Clinton 7 days a week over Betts. If you disagree, that's fine...I really couldn't care less anymore.

Portis is a good back also and I hope that next year, when he comes back, that he continues what Betts has been doing lately seeing that he is going to be the starter and all.