Rumored Portis Trade offered FROM! the Lions

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

But as far as all these trade talks, I'm sure it has been made aware to other teams that Portis is available, and if anyone in the Redskins front office says otherwise, they're lying. It may not have been a direct statement, but I'm sure that it leaked somehow. And with teams throwing 2nd overall picks around, I'm willing to bet that Portis is finished as a Redskin...

I think I agree with this assessment. Gibbs'll say something to the effect that you can't pass on an ace corner and the 2nd overall pick in the draft for ANYONE in the NFL. I'm guessing that would be the gist of it if he were dealt. I really can't say that I think Clinton will be back with this team next season. I really think he'll end up in some other city while the Skins are taking a player (maybe) and they're first round pick in the draft.

I think this is a serious run at Clinton being made by the Lions and the Skins are at least listening. If they do deal Clinton, though, they need another running back. Where does this guy come from? Right now, if the move happened, I'd be crying my eyes out that 1. Clinton would be gone (more than the next) and 2. because Darren McFadden isn't going into the draft.

So, where would they go if they did make this trade? Any thoughts?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think I agree with this assessment. Gibbs'll say something to the effect that you can't pass on an ace corner and the 2nd overall pick in the draft for ANYONE in the NFL. I'm guessing that would be the gist of it if he were dealt. I really can't say that I think Clinton will be back with this team next season. I really think he'll end up in some other city while the Skins are taking a player (maybe) and they're first round pick in the draft.

I think this is a serious run at Clinton being made by the Lions and the Skins are at least listening. If they do deal Clinton, though, they need another running back. Where does this guy come from? Right now, if the move happened, I'd be crying my eyes out that 1. Clinton would be gone (more than the next) and 2. because Darren McFadden isn't going into the draft.

So, where would they go if they did make this trade? Any thoughts?

Wow, that's a total misunderstanding of Joe Gibbs. I couldn't disagree with you more. No way Portis gets traded. No way in hell.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Wow, that's a total misunderstanding of Joe Gibbs. I couldn't disagree with you more. No way Portis gets traded. No way in hell.

We'll see. Nothing would surprise me from this team or this coaching staff anymore. I don't buy Gibbs for a minute when he says "we're NOT trading Clinton." Like I said before, I heard that song and dance before the 05 draft when, at FedEx for the draft day party, not long before the draft, he said, "We gotta go get Patrick some weapons." They went on to draft Rogers and Campbell.

I don't disagree that he loves Clinton Portis. But I think that he thinks he could win with Betts and another back. I hope I'm wrong, but the way things have been going over the past few years, I don't know that I am. I think it's about a 40% chance Clinton is back next season. I just don't see it happening.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Wow, that's a total misunderstanding of Joe Gibbs. I couldn't disagree with you more. No way Portis gets traded. No way in hell.

Uhh... Gibbs never tells the whole story. What makes you think that this situation is any different? This is the same guy that said they were drafting offensive weapons for Ramsey a couple years ago, and picks a corner and quarterback. This year, he's been saying that the problems had nothing to do with lack of communication, and everything is structured perfectly within the organization, but players are running to reporters talking about how some coaches don't even speak to others, players on the same unit have different meetings, etc.

As much as I would like to be wrong in this instance, I'm 99% sure that Portis is going to be gone, especially when people throw ridiculous packages around, like a Pro Bowl corner and the #2 overall pick.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

[quote=Southpaw;267426]Uhh... Gibbs never tells the whole story. What makes you think that this situation is any different? This is the same guy that said they were drafting offensive weapons for Ramsey a couple years ago, and picks a corner and quarterback. This year, he's been saying that the problems had nothing to do with lack of communication, and everything is structured perfectly within the organization, but players are running to reporters talking about how some coaches don't even speak to others, players on the same unit have different meetings, etc.

As much as I would like to be wrong in this instance, I'm 99% sure that Portis is going to be gone, especially when people throw ridiculous packages around, like a Pro Bowl corner and the #2 overall pick.[/quote]


as good of a deal that that is ....i would die if we took it...i LOVE CP but i love betts too but goddammit i cant take 4-5 more years of betts throwing the ball on the ground....

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

as good of a deal that that is ....i would die if we took it...i LOVE CP but i love betts too but goddammit i cant take 4-5 more years of betts throwing the ball on the ground....

Agreed, but apparently in Washington, running for a lot of yards between the 20's overshadows fumbling in the red zone...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Agreed, but apparently in Washington, running for a lot of yards between the 20's overshadows fumbling in the red zone...

Which is odd considering Gibbs is such a nut over that.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

as good of a deal that that is ....i would die if we took it...i LOVE CP but i love betts too but goddammit i cant take 4-5 more years of betts throwing the ball on the ground....

I think if they are going to take a deal for him, that's about as good as any to take. However, Dre Bly is getting old. He's 29, I thought he was about 2 years older than that, but still...a 29 year old corner for a 25 year old running back, doesn't seem like that great of a deal. However, the #2 has gotta be tempting.

I just like Clinton too much and think he's too good for them to trade him...I'm gonna be pissed if they do.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Uhh... Gibbs never tells the whole story. What makes you think that this situation is any different? This is the same guy that said they were drafting offensive weapons for Ramsey a couple years ago, and picks a corner and quarterback. This year, he's been saying that the problems had nothing to do with lack of communication, and everything is structured perfectly within the organization, but players are running to reporters talking about how some coaches don't even speak to others, players on the same unit have different meetings, etc.

As much as I would like to be wrong in this instance, I'm 99% sure that Portis is going to be gone, especially when people throw ridiculous packages around, like a Pro Bowl corner and the #2 overall pick.

I'm 99.99999% sure he's staying. Suffice it to say, one of us is going to be VERY surprised to be wrong. We'll see who's right.

Note to self: make fun of Southpaw when Portis suits up for the 'Skins in 2007.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm 99.99999% sure he's staying. Suffice it to say, one of us is going to be VERY surprised to be wrong. We'll see who's right.

Note to self: make fun of Southpaw when Portis suits up for the 'Skins in 2007.

As I said, I'd love nothing more to be wrong in this situation, because I would have a hard time stomaching the fact that Betts is THE guy. A plate full of deep fried crow would go down much easier.

I still think he's gone though...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

As I said, I'd love nothing more to be wrong in this situation, because I would have a hard time stomaching the fact that Betts is THE guy. A plate full of deep fried crow would go down much easier.

I still think he's gone though...

Crow it is.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

As I said, I'd love nothing more to be wrong in this situation, because I would have a hard time stomaching the fact that Betts is THE guy. A plate full of deep fried crow would go down much easier.

I still think he's gone though...

I agree on this one too. I'll be the happiest guy in the world if I am wrong. I just am about 80% sure he's gonna get shipped out.

[Beemnseven]

Here's another thing to consider: Are we 100% sure Clinton Portis is happy here? Has he been on the same page with this offense from the beginning, and especially now, when he said he wishes they'd ran the ball the way Betts was running it after he went on IR?

My guess is it probably won't happen, but for all the Portis lovers, do you want to keep him so bad that the defense will continue to suffer because of it?

[jsarno]

WOW, already 4 pages...jdlea has it on the money in his last post.
Just goes to show you Clinton Portis means a lot to this team when we can ramble on for this many pages about a bogus rumor.

#1- The Lions are dumb, but not that dumb. Trade a talented corner and their #2 pick leaving a huge hole in their secondary and log jamming the RB position and digressing the advancement of their young stud RB Jones? If this is true (I am 99.9% sure it is not) then Millen wants to be fired, and this shows why the Lions can't win, they are the dumbest team in history.

#2- I doubt that Gibbs thinks Betts is the man in DC. Gibbs hates mistakes, and Betts made a lot of them. Gibbs will get rid of a fumbler before a non fumbler. Even if Betts averaged 5 yards per and Portis 4 yards per, he'd keep Portis due to the turnovers.

#3- If I started a rumor that we're trading Portis for Champ Bailey and their #1 pick, would everyone get suckered in? If something doesn't make sense, then it is likely not true. This is someone's wild imagination run wild by overzealous Skins fans that didn't want the season to be over at this point.