1991 Redskins on NFL Network Friday

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Dallas was a playoff team last year. They lost in the divisional round like 33-6 to Detroit who we beat in the NFC title game. The Cowboys were 1-15 in either 89 or 90...but yes that one win was against us.

It was in '89 I remember that game, Ed "Too Tall" Jones batted down a desperation pass on the final drive that would have given the lead back to the Redskins.
It was also Jimmy Johnson's first year as a head coach and some conspiracy theorists speculate that he tanked the season on purpose to get the #1 draft pick to go along with the truckload he had already gotten for Herschel Walker.

[brent]

Dallas won with a whole lot of trickery in 1991. I seem to recall an end-of-half hail mary TD and a successful onside kick. The playoffs were a total laugher, as both NFC teams were weak run-and-shoot teams and Gibbs had it figured out completely, studying it before the season began. (Gibbs may have personally ended the run-and-shoot) Buffalo used a little of the run-and-shoot in their offense too, meaning run stuffer Matt Millen (ie, Detroit) sat out for the entire playoffs. Even the Redskins did a no-huddle, run-and-shoot thing once in a while just to overwhelm defenses in pre-game preparations. Only Buffalo posed any real challenge. I believe they went through September without even allowing a TD, or something close to that.

Statistically, it was one of the top 3 "points scored vs. league average" ever. I believe the 1983 Redskins also rank high as they had an unbelievably dominant offense, with Joe Theismann playing like a true MVP QB. (I don't recall, was he the MVP?)

One factor in 1991 was the special teams was fantastic, starring Brian Mitchell. The offense always worked on a short field and Rypien never turned the ball over in their own end all season, something that they worked on avoiding consciously. Rypien also had an insane slugging percentage throwing the deep ball. With protection that yielded roughly 7 sacks all season, he was nearly automatic on the deep passes. Earnest Byner had a career year, and he was complemented by a great rookie effort by Ricky Irvins (I think), who dropped off the face of the earth.

I recall the Giants game that year, 1 year after Parcells moved on, being a real bloody battle. They also struggled in a game (week 12 or 13) after the Cowboys loss, I think to the Rams, where Gibbs tossed the gatorade pissed the team was giving such a half-hearted effort against an easily beatable opponent. They never struggled again after that halftime.

Kornheiser wrote the bandwagon column, perhaps one of the most famous (and seriously boring) long-running sports columns ever. To this day, Kornheiser has never pulled the bandwagon out of the garage, although he's written columns about NOT doing it.

I believe the Kornheiser column started as a joke, about how a couple wins doesn't mean the team is going to dominate all season long and win the superbowl. It ended up the joke was on him! They did!!!! I've heard Kornheiser say he was planning to rip the *&^*&^*%^ out of the Skins after their first bad loss.

[Redskinhog1963]

I still think the 1983 team would have gone in as one of the greatest ever if not for that stupid loss in the Super Bowl. But I agree the 1991 team was amazing. I gotta say though in a way I'm glad we went 14-2 (not that I was happy to lose to the Eagles) instead of 15-1. Because I would hate to think that the one loss we'd have looking back on that year would have been to the Cowboys.
Game film for this current team should be highlights of that season every week.

that redskins 1983 team that got blasted by r the raiders was the best redskins team i ever saw!they lost to dallas 31-30 on mnf after leading them 24-3 at halftime,and dallas came back and beat them 31-30.the other loss that year was against green bay on mnf 48-47 when moseley missed a 48 yard fg on the last play of the game.the defense sucked that year,but until minnesota broke the season record for most points by a team in a season
that redskin team had it at 540!funny thing about that day,my dad got me hooked on the redskins as a little boy,but he had been a redskins fan 50 years.
anyways,he got to work the next day,and found out he had won the pool at work,1k cause he had the raiders 38-9.go figure.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by brent

Statistically, it was one of the top 3 "points scored vs. league average" ever. I believe the 1983 Redskins also rank high as they had an unbelievably dominant offense, with Joe Theismann playing like a true MVP QB. (I don't recall, was he the MVP?)
...

Theismann was in fact the league MVP in 1983, and that was a great, great Redskins team, but I believe the 1991 team was more balanced.

The '91 team scored a league high 485 points (30 per game) and yielded the 2nd fewest at 224 points (14 per game). That 16 point average point differential is one of the largest in league history. That team only allowed 9 sacks all year - 2 or 3 of which came in a meaningless loss when they rested starters for much of the finale at Philly. With such great O-line play, Mark Rypien hit deep balls at will all season.

ESPN2 named the 1991 Redskins as their #4 team in NFL history, so I believe that NFL Network ranking them as the 14th strongest Super Bowl winner is ridiculously low. ESPN.com - Page2 - Greatest NFL teams of all time

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by brent

Dallas won with a whole lot of trickery in 1991. I seem to recall an end-of-half hail mary TD and a successful onside kick. The playoffs were a total laugher, as both NFC teams were weak run-and-shoot teams and Gibbs had it figured out completely, studying it before the season began. (Gibbs may have personally ended the run-and-shoot) Buffalo used a little of the run-and-shoot in their offense too, meaning run stuffer Matt Millen (ie, Detroit) sat out for the entire playoffs. Even the Redskins did a no-huddle, run-and-shoot thing once in a while just to overwhelm defenses in pre-game preparations. Only Buffalo posed any real challenge. I believe they went through September without even allowing a TD, or something close to that.

Statistically, it was one of the top 3 "points scored vs. league average" ever. I believe the 1983 Redskins also rank high as they had an unbelievably dominant offense, with Joe Theismann playing like a true MVP QB. (I don't recall, was he the MVP?)

One factor in 1991 was the special teams was fantastic, starring Brian Mitchell. The offense always worked on a short field and Rypien never turned the ball over in their own end all season, something that they worked on avoiding consciously. Rypien also had an insane slugging percentage throwing the deep ball. With protection that yielded roughly 7 sacks all season, he was nearly automatic on the deep passes. Earnest Byner had a career year, and he was complemented by a great rookie effort by Ricky Irvins (I think), who dropped off the face of the earth.

I recall the Giants game that year, 1 year after Parcells moved on, being a real bloody battle. They also struggled in a game (week 12 or 13) after the Cowboys loss, I think to the Rams, where Gibbs tossed the gatorade pissed the team was giving such a half-hearted effort against an easily beatable opponent. They never struggled again after that halftime.

Kornheiser wrote the bandwagon column, perhaps one of the most famous (and seriously boring) long-running sports columns ever. To this day, Kornheiser has never pulled the bandwagon out of the garage, although he's written columns about NOT doing it.

I believe the Kornheiser column started as a joke, about how a couple wins doesn't mean the team is going to dominate all season long and win the superbowl. It ended up the joke was on him! They did!!!! I've heard Kornheiser say he was planning to rip the *&^*&^*%^ out of the Skins after their first bad loss.

You might want to thank Ritchie Petibone too. Gibbs pretty much left the defense alone. For some reason Ritchie never seems to get any credit. One of the best DC's of all time.

[MTK]

14th seems a little low for a team that basically blew through the field on their way to a 17-2 finish. I'll wait to see the entire list before I ultimately judge whether the '91 team got screwed.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I still think the 1983 team would have gone in as one of the greatest ever if not for that stupid loss in the Super Bowl. But I agree the 1991 team was amazing. I gotta say though in a way I'm glad we went 14-2 (not that I was happy to lose to the Eagles) instead of 15-1. Because I would hate to think that the one loss we'd have looking back on that year would have been to the Cowboys.

Game film for this current team should be highlights of that season every week.

The 1983 team was awesome. I have a magazine article from right before the Super Bowl comparing them to the 70's Steelers. That would be looked on as one of the greatest teams ever if they had won that game...and Joe Theismann would be in the Hall of Fame.

[gibbsisgod]

Did anyone see the show where the told about how they came up with the idea for "America's Game"? I was quite pissed off when they suggested that Washington got lucky in '82 and '87 because they were strike years. I believe they used the term "stole suberbowls". I almost turned the channel thinking that once again, Washington got screwed out of any kind of recognition of thier accomplishments. I am just happy they picked one of our teams as one of the greatest ever.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Did anyone see the show where the told about how they came up with the idea for "America's Game"? I was quite pissed off when they suggested that Washington got lucky in '82 and '87 because they were strike years. I believe they used the term "stole suberbowls". I almost turned the channel thinking that once again, Washington got screwed out of any kind of recognition of thier accomplishments. I am just happy they picked one of our teams as one of the greatest ever.

They didn't steal anything, they earned it just like all the other super bowl winners. Whose to say they wouldn't have been just as successful without the strikes. Whoever said that is a complete moron who doesn't deserve to be a talking head on t.v., of course half those people on t.v. are complete bafoons who couldn't cut it in any other endeavor in life. For a prime example of this just watch "Around the Horn" on ESPN, they had to pick those guys off the street or something, they are just awful, I mean awful, what a bunch of idiots.

[gibbsisgod]

I just wonder if any other team had won it all during one of those strike seasons would they still have considered it a "stolen Superbowl"? I'll bet not!

[squrrelco3]

Finally watched it tonight (had it TIVO'd) man talk about memories. Art Monk and "the Posse", Wilbur Marshall, Charles Mann and the "National Defense". That was fun to watch.

[celts32]

That was a great show...I love how they began it from the body bag game the year before.

[Redskinhog1963]

did'nt mark mosely win the league mvp during the 1982 redskins super bowl championship team?in my opinion gibb's greatest win as the skins coach 1st time around,was when he took the 87 skins strike team to dallas,and beat the cowboys strike team that randy white,danny white,tony dorsett,and a few other regulars that crossed the strike lines to play.that was the last game me and my daddy saw together before he went to that giant redskins stadium
in the sky!

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Redskinhog1963

did'nt mark mosely win the league mvp during the 1982 redskins super bowl championship team?in my opinion gibb's greatest win as the skins coach 1st time around,was when he took the 87 skins strike team to dallas,and beat the cowboys strike team that randy white,danny white,tony dorsett,and a few other regulars that crossed the strike lines to play.that was the last game me and my daddy saw together before he went to that giant redskins stadium
in the sky!

yes,Mosely did win mvp,only kicker to ever do it,does he belong in the hall?
yes,that dallas strike game was great,Dierdorf says at the start of game how nobody is giving these skins a chance,but anbody who underestimates a joe gibbs coached team is sadly mistaken,how true those words turned out to be!{wish it was true now!} I have that game on dvd,watched it not that long ago,one of our strike players still holds the redskin single game recieving record,Anthony Allen,I have that game too

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by celts32

That was a great show...I love how they began it from the body bag game the year before.

That was great stuff. One thing that I noticed was all the deep passing we use to do. Power running game, deep passing and roll outs.