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Old 01-16-2007, 12:29 PM   #1
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Re: Drafting a safety.

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I'm wrong!!???

What's the better option:

1) Maximizing AA for what the entire coaching staff saw as a major talent for our secondary. Wiping the slate clean and figuring out how best to utilize his talents with Taylor. AA could be a great force for our team next year.

or

2) Cutting him after June 1st. Left with another void to fill with another FREE AGENT. Eating 7million in dead cap the following year.

The decision looks like an easy one if you're a Redskins Defensive Coach.
Yes, you are wrong. You said his cap # was too large to cut him and that's what I responded to. It's not too large to cut him as I and many others have outlined many times before on this subject.
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:34 PM   #2
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Yes, you are wrong. You said his cap # was too large to cut him and that's what I responded to. It's not too large to cut him as I and many others have outlined many times before on this subject.
7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:49 PM   #3
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7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:53 PM   #4
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Vinny C., is that you?

Hahahaha, totally!
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:56 PM   #5
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Hahahaha, totally!
I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:10 PM   #6
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I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.

I heard on sportstalk 980 a beat writer from St. Louis (the week before the St. Louis game this year) who was talking about Adam and he could not believe why anyone would gave him the money the Skins did. The beat writer was actually a Skins fan and from the DC area.

The beat writer basically stated that Adam had some serious back injuries (this is the one of the reasons St. Louis did not retain him) and that he is not the same player he was from his days in St. Louis and that his chances of recovering from these back injuries are basically none. If you talk to any doctor concerning a bad back - they never fully heal and for an athelte it is their worst nightmare.

So basically the beat writer says Adam is done as a player - the same guy you saw that got beat in coverage will be the same guy you see next year due to the back injury. Archuleta is basically done at this point as an effective player due to his bad back.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:47 PM   #7
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I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.
I agree with Jdaly. I don't think he is going anywere .
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:55 PM   #8
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I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.
And that's something that the coaches will have to decide. The Skins' have more than just 2 options, cut him or start him. As the Lost Season Series in the Post made clear, depth has been a major issue for the Skins. AA would be a great back-up in case anything happens to Taylor. Just because he was a major dissapointment, doesn't justify an emotional response by the Front Office. Of course, justification and reason have not been tenets of Redskin FO policy. There are many things to consider, but first and foremost it must be remembered that just because he is being paid as a starter doesn't mean he has to start. If they do get rid of him, it is important that they replace him, and I would hate to have to replace a player we already have by using a draft pick, esp. since we have so few.
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7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!
It's not too large to handle... they've handled bigger hits in the past so why are you so insistent that they can't handle it this time??

I don't see him bouncing back and starting at all. It just seems as if too many bridges have been burned and it would be best for both sides to cut their ties and start fresh.
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Re: Drafting a safety.

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7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!
This is incorrect. The Redskins seem to have a lot of money tied up in cap figures for the 2008 season (currently stands at $102 million against the $116 million projected cap), but $60 million of it is tied to base salaries which can easily be renegotiated (and will be as the team has historically done). For example, saying goodbye to Brunell sometime before the 2008 season would clear his $6.5 million salary off the books and create almost enough space to handle Archuleta's $7 million deadcap hit alone. In addition, guys like Jansen, Samuels, R Thomas, Portis, Springs, and Marcus Washington are all scheduled to make $4 million or higher in 2008 base salaries. These can easily be renegotiated this time next year to clear another $10-$20 million in 2008 cap space, if the team needs.

The team has plenty of flexibility to not only cut Archuleta, but also cut Brandon Lloyd this year if they wanted to. Should they try to cut both, then they'd be more restricted in free agency. I don't think they'll do that, but they easily have the cap flexibility to create the space they need in both 2007 and 2008.
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Re: Drafting a safety.

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7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!
i agree with you
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