Considering moving Springs to safety...

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't remember Rogers running that fast. My recollection was he ran something like a 4.41.

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

Thats BS...this must be one of those cases where his game speed doesn't match his 40 because I'm not seeing 4.31 on the field.

C. Rogers ran a 4.31 at the NFL combine which is what elevated him to top half of first round.
Here is link: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9244060

Which said, "In 2005, 11 defensive backs ran their 40-yard dash in times of 4.40 and under. Of the 11, six ran for times of 4.35 and under. Of those six, Carlos Rogers (4.31) and Fabian Washington (4.31) moved up into the first round.

People have every right to say C. Rogers has dissappointed. However I think he will work his way out of his inconsistant play. Playing CornerBack in the NFL is one of the toughest positions to play in any sport. With all of the new rules it is impossible to shut down a great receiver. Our pass rush from the front four has been a greater weakness for many years and leads to coverage problems. You can only cover a WR for so long.
I say lets give him another chance and not boo him. He is a good kid that works very hard, he deserves another chance. I bet if our front seven stops the run better and improves on the pass rush, all of our Db's confidance and coverage will also improve greatly. Out entire defense will improve. It all starts up front and this last year our front seven FAILD.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

People have every right to say C. Rogers has dissappointed. However I think he will work his way out of his inconsistant play. Playoing CornerBack in the NFL is one of the toughest positions to play in any sport. With all of the new rules it is impossible to shut down a great receiver. Our pass rush from the front four has been a greater weakness for many years and leads to coverage problems. You can only cover a WR for so long. I say lets give him another chance and not boo him.

I definately agree that corner is one of the hardest positions to play in the NFL, but thus far Rogers hasn't lived up to his hype. Our pass rush has also been shoddy, but I've seen Rogers make some pretty bad plays on a consistent basis. Most notably, he drops easy INTs that even corners should be expected to get. I have not given up on Rogers, but my hopes and expectations are dying out.

[Paintrain]

Moving Springs & signing Clements should solidify our secondary but a pass rush and hopefully 10-90 Rogers bought a Juggs machine and he is using it 3 times a day.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

C. Rogers ran a 4.31 at the NFL combine which is what elevated him to top half of first round.
Here is link: NFL.com - NFL News

Which said, "In 2005, 11 defensive backs ran their 40-yard dash in times of 4.40 and under. Of the 11, six ran for times of 4.35 and under. Of those six, Carlos Rogers (4.31) and Fabian Washington (4.31) moved up into the first round.

People have every right to say C. Rogers has dissappointed. However I think he will work his way out of his inconsistant play. Playing CornerBack in the NFL is one of the toughest positions to play in any sport. With all of the new rules it is impossible to shut down a great receiver. Our pass rush from the front four has been a greater weakness for many years and leads to coverage problems. You can only cover a WR for so long.
I say lets give him another chance and not boo him. He is a good kid that works very hard, he deserves another chance. I bet if our front seven stops the run better and improves on the pass rush, all of our Db's confidance and coverage will also improve greatly. Out entire defense will improve. It all starts up front and this last year our front seven FAILD.

Correct. The push that opposing lines got against us in the run game was unbelievable. I think our production against the pass speaks for itself. With ends like Andre Carter, we can't afford to bench our great tackling corners, like Rogers. No one tries to run up the middle against us, everything is off tackle or outside the end.

Because of good tackling on the outside, we were league average vs. the run. We had a low ranking, but the rankings were skewed by teams like the Jets and the Colts being so much worse than anyone against the run.

Against the pass, GW was running a questionable coverage scheme, but also our linebackers just didn't get the job done. Most of the completions happened underneath our DBs for first downs. ST got beat deep every now and then due to overaggressiveness, but its got to be frusterating to watch an offense move the chains with ease, because the secondary is playing conservative, and the linebackers aren't a factor in the play.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Correct. The push that opposing lines got against us in the run game was unbelievable. I think our production against the pass speaks for itself. With ends like Andre Carter, we can't afford to bench our great tackling corners, like Rogers. No one tries to run up the middle against us, everything is off tackle or outside the end.

Excellent point. GW's scheme relies on the tackling ability of corners to stuff the run - hence Smoot's departure to Minnesota. Smoot missed more tackles/sacks than anyone I've ever seen don the burgundy and gold and when he did make a tackle he usually went to the sidelines with a stinger or something.