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I would rather see them sign another #2 corner and a MLB than Clements.

First of all, Clements comes from a loser. Second, he is looking for the big check. As the Redskins have proven, the year after the payday is usually a disappointment.

Plus, if they don't find a way for the front 7 to get pressure, they could sign Champ and Clements and it wouldn't matter.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I would rather see them sign another #2 corner and a MLB than Clements.

First of all, Clements comes from a loser. Second, he is looking for the big check. As the Redskins have proven, the year after the payday is usually a disappointment.

Plus, if they don't find a way for the front 7 to get pressure, they could sign Champ and Clements and it wouldn't matter.

Well, as for a No. 2 corner, we already did that last year. Kenny Wright was the No. 2 on a damn good 2005 Jacksonville defense. Apparently with the crappy state of the D Line, we are going to need someone better.

But you're right, theres no guarentees that that signing would immediately improve our pass D. The problem is on the DL and there are no quick fixes there.

Not sure how coming from a loser is relavent to anything. We have 53+ guys who are coming from a loser.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, as for a No. 2 corner, we already did that last year. Kenny Wright was the No. 2 on a damn good 2005 Jacksonville defense. Apparently with the crappy state of the D Line, we are going to need someone better.

But you're right, theres no guarentees that that signing would immediately improve our pass D. The problem is on the DL and there are no quick fixes there.

Not sure how coming from a loser is relavent to anything. We have 53+ guys who are coming from a loser.

If they are going to pay Springs 6 or 7 milion, he is the number one corner on opening day. It makes no sense to dump 12+ million in guaranteed money on a cornerback when you need an interior lineman, possibly a D-end and arguably 2 linebackers.

When is the last time that Buffalo was relevant? Breaking the bank on Clements is no different than hoarding 49ers. If I had to choose between Clements or Samuel, I would take Samuel. He has been on a winning defense and I have never seen Manning afraid to throw to one side of the field like the championship game. Either way the team is cheating itself if you sign either one of them.

You build a good defense from the inside out, not the outside in.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

If they are going to pay Springs 6 or 7 milion, he is the number one corner on opening day. It makes no sense to dump 12+ million in guaranteed money on a cornerback when you need an interior lineman, possibly a D-end and arguably 2 linebackers.

When is the last time that Buffalo was relevant? Breaking the bank on Clements is no different than hoarding 49ers. If I had to choose between Clements or Samuel, I would take Samuel. He has been on a winning defense and I have never seen Manning afraid to throw to one side of the field like the championship game. Either way the team is cheating itself if you sign either one of them.

You build a good defense from the inside out, not the outside in.

Well, if you think that we can rely on Springs to stay healthy for 16 games AND keep his level of play where it was in 2005, then we don't really need corner help at all. The only reason I would want the Skins to add a corner is because we have to prepare for life without Springs. This year that could be temporary, but in future years it could be permanent. There's no problem with moving Springs to the nickle, IMO. I just don't think its reasonable to rely on him for a 16 game season and to expect him to be the same guy he was two years ago at his age.

CB isn't a huge need compared to the DL, but if we are serious about winning THIS year, it's an issue that we can fix without picks. DL is going to take some time to fix, so its pointless to burn our cap room there. We do need a MLB also. I like London Fletcher.

It wouldn't have mattered if Clements played for the Patriots and Asante Samuel was a Bill. Not significant in any way. We are talking about guys to add to the Redskins. If they both played for the 49ers, neither would be any different as a player or potential Redskin (we may view them differently, but thats what player evaluation SHOULD eliminate). I actually think Samuel is a tad better based on observation, but GW likes the bigger physical corners and thats what Clements brings to the table.

I agree with the inside out philosophy, but I think building from the front to the back is more important. And since it's going to take time to build that front through the draft, having a dominant secondary is the only way this D will stay competitive.