GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:24 PM

GTripp's Mock Version 2.0 (February 2, 2007)

Oakland Raiders-Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame-The question isnt about Quinn v Russell here. The real question is Quinn v Calvin Johnson. Do the Raiders try to rebuild their offense around a franchise QB, or around a franchise WR? It'd be nothing short of foolish to think we know what the Raiders are going to do here. We do know that Al Davis will set the tone for this whole draft, and may God help us all.

Detroit Lions-Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin-Could the Lions make a surprise pick like Gaines Adams here at No. 2? Oh Matt Millen, you crazy wonderful lunatic. Don't make me regret my decision to trust that you know what you are doing. Thomas is a massive prospect at tackle.

Tampa Bay Bucs-Calvin Johnson, WR, Ga. Tech-I don't think taking recievers in the top 10 is ever a good strategy, but what do I know? Jon Gruden took Michael Clayton in the first round in 2004, and got results from him as a Rookie. But with Clayton yet to duplicate the results from his rookie year, and Joey Galloway becoming less serviceable with every passing year, the need for Calvin Johnson is just great enough to the point where they can't pass on his talent, me predicts.

Cleveland Browns-Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma-It seems to me from watching film of Peterson at Oklahoma that Adrian will bounce it wide if the hole isn't huge. This is a habit that will bite him at the pro level. I think he could be the first big RB bust since Curtis Enis, or at the absolute best a very slow learner. The Browns would be better off taking a QB here. It just seems like they see something in Charlie Frye that they like. Whatever that is, I'm still looking. Peterson is the selection.

Arizona Cardinals-Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas-This is the first really really tought pick to project. The Cardinals are a team who have more needs on the offensive line than at every other position on the team combined. But if they stay at No. 5 there's no lineman they could select worthy of this selection. It makes this team a prime candidate to try to deal their selection for more picks. This, in turn, will make it more difficult for Washington to trade down, simply because any team that would want to trade up to 6 could likely get up to 5 for similar value. Assuming the Cards hold this pick, a player could fly up the board over the next 3 months and get selected here, such as Florida's Reggie Nelson. Right now in this version of the Mock, I'm going to give them the best player available, Arkansas' Jamaal Anderson.

Washington Redskins-Alan Branch, DT, Michigan-Branch is massive at 335 and can rush the passer as well as any DT on the board. With this selection, the Redskins go from a quesitonable situation in the middle of the DL to a very solid one with a young stud in the middle and great depth behind him. He may very well be the best player available at pick No. 6.

Minnesota Vikings-JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU-I think Brad Childress is smart enough to realize that Tavaris Jackson is not the future of this franchise. Brad Johnson could very well be cut and this team could be left without a quarterback. Either way this is a squad in rebuilding, but JaMarcus Russell could remind fans of Daunte Culpepper with his arm and whatnot. Or something. Look, the pick is going to be Russell.

Houston Texans-Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville-The Texans are making a strong effort to build the defensive line up first. Word is that they aren't impressed by 2005 first round DT, Travis Johnson a Dom Capers/Charley Casserly selection. The ideal situation would be for Johnson to pan out and to pair him with the 19 year old Okoye and have a dominant defensive line with Anthony Weaver and Mario Williams at defensive end. Either way, they hope to get a stud in Okoye.

Miami Dolphins-Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB, Purdue-We all know how the "'tweener" players end up flying up the board after workouts. Dom Capers, now left in charge of the Dolphins Defense in the wake of Saban's departure is likely to push for the selection of an athletic linebacker type to play in his 3-4 scheme.

Atlanta Falcons-Reggie Nelson, S, Florida-Athletic safety in the mold of Michael Huff who I expect to fly up the boards after workouts. Will compete with Lawyer Milloy and Jimmy Williams for playing time in the secondary. Will be very, very good.

San Francisco 49ers-Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State
Buffalo Bills-Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
St. Louis Rams-Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
Carolina Panthers-LaRon Landry, S, LSU
Pittsburgh Steelers-Marshawn Lynch, RB, California
Green Bay Packers-Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
Jacksonville Jaguars-Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
Cincinnati Bengals-Tank Tyler, DT, NC State
Tennessee Titans-Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
New York Giants-Levi Brown, T, Penn State
Denver Broncos-Daymeion Hughes, CB, California
Dallas Cowboys-Michael Griffin, S, Texas
Kansas City Chiefs-Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
New England Patriots (f/SEA)-Patrick Willis, ILB, Mississippi
New York Jets-Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida St.
Philadelphia Eagles-Darrell Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
New Orleans Saints-Paul Pozluzny, OLB, Penn State
New England Patriots-Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
Baltimore Ravens-Tony Ugoh, T, Arkansas
San Diego Chargers-Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
Indianapolis Colts-Buster Davis, ILB, Florida State
Chicago Bears-Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-02-2007, 02:27 PM

Pretty good mock. I still think Russell will go higher. Also, the Lions already have a great LT in Backus. The Lions need help on the O-line, but not at LT and I wonder if they would be reluctant to invest such a high pick in a guy, only to change him from an LT to a RT. Finally, Carricker keeps climbing draft boards.

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Pretty good mock. I still think Russell will go higher. Also, the Lions already have a great LT in Backus. The Lions need help on the O-line, but not at LT and I wonder if they would be reluctant to invest such a high pick in a guy, only to change him from an LT to a RT. Finally, Carricker keeps climbing draft boards.

I like Carriker, but after I had Denver taking a corner, It just seemed like every other team would prefer a player who wasn't Carriker. Just means someone gets a 2nd round steal.

Backus I think was on the franchise tender this year, although I seem to remember him signing a big deal last year. I think this is a position Detroit could upgrade.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-02-2007, 02:38 PM

As far as I'm concerned, that could be us. If we could trade down, get Okoye then pick up Carriker, I think we'd be looking good draft-wise.

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

As far as I'm concerned, that could be us. If we could trade down, get Okoye then pick up Carriker, I think we'd be looking good draft-wise.

That would be pretty ideal. I think with Arizona also looking to trade down, its going to be difficult to find a suitable trading partner.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-02-2007, 02:41 PM

Am I wrong in thinking the Pats would be a good trade partner to pull that off?

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Am I wrong in thinking the Pats would be a good trade partner to pull that off?

Who would the Pats want bad enough to trade two first rounders for? I think Pioli is too smart to put all his eggs in one basket like that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-02-2007, 02:46 PM

I was thinking a second (if they had it).

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I was thinking a second (if they had it).

They do hold the 60th pick, but even if they gave us the 24th and the 60th, we'd be giving them 600 points in value, thats a bad deal for us. Rather take Branch in that situation.

If we got the 24th and the 28th from them, we'd still be giving 200 points of value for that, and I'm not sure what they'd want with the No. 6 pick.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-02-2007, 02:55 PM

I feel like a lot of people are worried that we wouldn't get an elite player with those picks though. First round picks are still first round picks.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-02-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They do hold the 60th pick, but even if they gave us the 24th and the 60th, we'd be giving them 600 points in value, thats a bad deal for us. Rather take Branch in that situation.

If we got the 24th and the 28th from them, we'd still be giving 200 points of value for that, and I'm not sure what they'd want with the No. 6 pick.

I know they would never do it, but I'd love to trade the 6th overall pick for the 24th and 28th. I rarely think that Top 10 picks are worth 2 first rounders. But, as you pointed out, there's no one the Pats would want at #6. They've got good DEs and DTs, so Branch and Anderson are out. Johnson is going to be gone by #6. They're obviously settled at QB, so they're not looking at Quinn or Russell. They don't need another RB with Dillon and Maroney. So, there is no way we'd get their 2 1st rounders, but I'd love that deal.

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I feel like a lot of people are worried that we wouldn't get an elite player with those picks though. First round picks are still first round picks.

I think if the right trade comes our way, we should take it. Two picks are always better than one. But we are sitting pretty at six with the first defender unlikely to go off the board before 5, and any trade down means we pass on an elite defender. Still, 2 very good players are better than one elite guy, so I might even give the Pats 200 points of value to get multiple 1st rounders. However, the Patriots are unlikely to trade up even with 200 points of value in their favor. Trading up is usally not a smart move, and I don't see anyone the Pats would target at No. 6.

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I know they would never do it, but I'd love to trade the 6th overall pick for the 24th and 28th. I rarely think that Top 10 picks are worth 2 first rounders. But, as you pointed out, there's no one the Pats would want at #6. They've got good DEs and DTs, so Branch and Anderson are out. Johnson is going to be gone by #6. They're obviously settled at QB, so they're not looking at Quinn or Russell. They don't need another RB with Dillon and Maroney. So, there is no way we'd get their 2 1st rounders, but I'd love that deal.

I tend to think the value chart is a little weighted towards the top and that giving up 200 points to trade down out of the top ten is generally a smart move. Of course, that by definition would make it a dumb move to trade up into the top ten giving up two first round picks, and I find it tough to believe we would be lucky enough to have any team approach us with enough picks to make a serious deal for the 6th pick.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-02-2007, 03:04 PM

I would consider a mid-first round pick and an early second round pick. I think that could be very doable (but the Skins won't do it).

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I would consider a mid-first round pick and an early second round pick. I think that could be very doable (but the Skins won't do it).

This is a good trade as long as the guy you are targeting falls to that first rounder that you are getting. It's risky, but if you are successful and land your guy, having that 2nd rounder is pretty sweet.

A perfectly even trade accoring to the chart would be the Rams 1st and 2nd for our 6th overall.

If we could get something like that, we'd be sitting pretty.

02-02-2007, 02:24 PM	#16
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread GTripp's Mock Version 2.0 (February 2, 2007) Oakland Raiders-Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame-The question isnt about Quinn v Russell here. The real question is Quinn v Calvin Johnson. Do the Raiders try to rebuild their offense around a franchise QB, or around a franchise WR? It'd be nothing short of foolish to think we know what the Raiders are going to do here. We do know that Al Davis will set the tone for this whole draft, and may God help us all. Detroit Lions-Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin-Could the Lions make a surprise pick like Gaines Adams here at No. 2? Oh Matt Millen, you crazy wonderful lunatic. Don't make me regret my decision to trust that you know what you are doing. Thomas is a massive prospect at tackle. Tampa Bay Bucs-Calvin Johnson, WR, Ga. Tech-I don't think taking recievers in the top 10 is ever a good strategy, but what do I know? Jon Gruden took Michael Clayton in the first round in 2004, and got results from him as a Rookie. But with Clayton yet to duplicate the results from his rookie year, and Joey Galloway becoming less serviceable with every passing year, the need for Calvin Johnson is just great enough to the point where they can't pass on his talent, me predicts. Cleveland Browns-Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma-It seems to me from watching film of Peterson at Oklahoma that Adrian will bounce it wide if the hole isn't huge. This is a habit that will bite him at the pro level. I think he could be the first big RB bust since Curtis Enis, or at the absolute best a very slow learner. The Browns would be better off taking a QB here. It just seems like they see something in Charlie Frye that they like. Whatever that is, I'm still looking. Peterson is the selection. Arizona Cardinals-Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas-This is the first really really tought pick to project. The Cardinals are a team who have more needs on the offensive line than at every other position on the team combined. But if they stay at No. 5 there's no lineman they could select worthy of this selection. It makes this team a prime candidate to try to deal their selection for more picks. This, in turn, will make it more difficult for Washington to trade down, simply because any team that would want to trade up to 6 could likely get up to 5 for similar value. Assuming the Cards hold this pick, a player could fly up the board over the next 3 months and get selected here, such as Florida's Reggie Nelson. Right now in this version of the Mock, I'm going to give them the best player available, Arkansas' Jamaal Anderson. Washington Redskins-Alan Branch, DT, Michigan-Branch is massive at 335 and can rush the passer as well as any DT on the board. With this selection, the Redskins go from a quesitonable situation in the middle of the DL to a very solid one with a young stud in the middle and great depth behind him. He may very well be the best player available at pick No. 6. Minnesota Vikings-JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU-I think Brad Childress is smart enough to realize that Tavaris Jackson is not the future of this franchise. Brad Johnson could very well be cut and this team could be left without a quarterback. Either way this is a squad in rebuilding, but JaMarcus Russell could remind fans of Daunte Culpepper with his arm and whatnot. Or something. Look, the pick is going to be Russell. Houston Texans-Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville-The Texans are making a strong effort to build the defensive line up first. Word is that they aren't impressed by 2005 first round DT, Travis Johnson a Dom Capers/Charley Casserly selection. The ideal situation would be for Johnson to pan out and to pair him with the 19 year old Okoye and have a dominant defensive line with Anthony Weaver and Mario Williams at defensive end. Either way, they hope to get a stud in Okoye. Miami Dolphins-Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB, Purdue-We all know how the "'tweener" players end up flying up the board after workouts. Dom Capers, now left in charge of the Dolphins Defense in the wake of Saban's departure is likely to push for the selection of an athletic linebacker type to play in his 3-4 scheme. Atlanta Falcons-Reggie Nelson, S, Florida-Athletic safety in the mold of Michael Huff who I expect to fly up the boards after workouts. Will compete with Lawyer Milloy and Jimmy Williams for playing time in the secondary. Will be very, very good. San Francisco 49ers-Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State Buffalo Bills-Leon Hall, CB, Michigan St. Louis Rams-Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson Carolina Panthers-LaRon Landry, S, LSU Pittsburgh Steelers-Marshawn Lynch, RB, California Green Bay Packers-Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC Jacksonville Jaguars-Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia Cincinnati Bengals-Tank Tyler, DT, NC State Tennessee Titans-Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee New York Giants-Levi Brown, T, Penn State Denver Broncos-Daymeion Hughes, CB, California Dallas Cowboys-Michael Griffin, S, Texas Kansas City Chiefs-Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State New England Patriots (f/SEA)-Patrick Willis, ILB, Mississippi New York Jets-Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida St. Philadelphia Eagles-Darrell Revis, CB, Pittsburgh New Orleans Saints-Paul Pozluzny, OLB, Penn State New England Patriots-Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State Baltimore Ravens-Tony Ugoh, T, Arkansas San Diego Chargers-Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU Indianapolis Colts-Buster Davis, ILB, Florida State Chicago Bears-Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

02-02-2007, 02:27 PM	#17
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread Pretty good mock. I still think Russell will go higher. Also, the Lions already have a great LT in Backus. The Lions need help on the O-line, but not at LT and I wonder if they would be reluctant to invest such a high pick in a guy, only to change him from an LT to a RT. Finally, Carricker keeps climbing draft boards.

02-02-2007, 02:38 PM	#19
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread As far as I'm concerned, that could be us. If we could trade down, get Okoye then pick up Carriker, I think we'd be looking good draft-wise. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-02-2007, 02:41 PM	#21
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread Am I wrong in thinking the Pats would be a good trade partner to pull that off? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-02-2007, 02:46 PM	#23
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread I was thinking a second (if they had it). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-02-2007, 02:55 PM	#25
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread I feel like a lot of people are worried that we wouldn't get an elite player with those picks though. First round picks are still first round picks. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-02-2007, 03:04 PM	#29
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread I would consider a mid-first round pick and an early second round pick. I think that could be very doable (but the Skins won't do it). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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