Jansen's Future in Doubt?

Gmanc711 · 02-05-2007, 07:06 PM

For those who still think his future is in doubt...its allegedly being reported on Comcast that Jansen signed a four year extension worth 22 million dollars.

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GTripp0012 · 02-05-2007, 07:19 PM

This seems like an immediate cap relief move more than anything. Looks like we will save ~3 million for this year. Still, this could just be a move to soften the blow of losing Dockery, should it come to that.

I don't like the idea of paying a guy who had a subpar season with multiple years left on his deal, but if the alternative was to cut him, I agree with the road they've taken.

wolfeskins · 02-05-2007, 07:21 PM

thats a good move. i'm glad he wants to stay and i'm glad that the skins gave him a good deal. i wonder how much money this move saves the on the skins cap ?

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-05-2007, 07:46 PM

lets hope this trend continues (dockery)

SkinEmAll · 02-05-2007, 08:36 PM

How many sacks did jansen give up this year? I know he didnt have a pro bowl season, but he will probaly be more comfortable next season and do even better.

Pocket$ $traight · 02-05-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This seems like an immediate cap relief move more than anything. Looks like we will save ~3 million for this year. Still, this could just be a move to soften the blow of losing Dockery, should it come to that.

I don't like the idea of paying a guy who had a subpar season with multiple years left on his deal, but if the alternative was to cut him, I agree with the road they've taken.

If they choose Jansen over Dockery the front office is even more pathetic then I thought.

Schneed10 · 02-05-2007, 09:08 PM

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

Pocket$ $traight · 02-05-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

That move showed commitment to the team. He basically took a paycut (of course he will get more guaranteed money but still).

MTK · 02-05-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap.

It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next.

Yeah sounds pretty logical to me.

Pocket$ $traight · 02-05-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

How many sacks did jansen give up this year? I know he didnt have a pro bowl season, but he will probaly be more comfortable next season and do even better.

I can remember both bookends having bad games but statistically the line was one of the best even with Rex or Mark (whatever his name is) starting all of those games.

dblanch66 · 02-06-2007, 01:18 AM

Jansen is also a LEADER on this team. We need him in the locker room and in the game to fire up the guys. He has been a Redskin his whole career, so I hope this deal keeps him here 'til he retires. The move was made so that we could re sign Dock. Watch...it's coming next. And by the way..
Dallas Sucks.

That Guy · 02-06-2007, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This isn't true. At least not with the 'Skins. All of our restructures last year were simple restructures. The net impact to cash flow was 0. Each player accepted their base salaries up front in a lump sum payment. They didn't get any more $ than their contract called for.

You run into trouble when a player is nearing the end of his contract. If you want to clear salary cap for those players, you need to extend them.

well, you missed where i said generally, or the post i was responding too. but for example, jansen's restructure added a whole lot more money to the pot for him with the extra years.

Schneed10 · 02-06-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

That move showed commitment to the team. He basically took a paycut (of course he will get more guaranteed money but still).

No, definitely not a paycut. I don't know why you're saying that?

He was due just over $8 million in base salary over 2007 and 2008. I haven't seen the terms, but my guess is his signing bonus with this extension will be in that range ($8 million or so). He'll then have vet minimum salaries for the first two or three years, and then the contract will be largely backloaded.

It's probably one of those 5 year deals that are only supposed to last 3 years before they're either restructured or he's let go. But it's definitely not a paycut.

Schneed10 · 02-06-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

well, you missed where i said generally, or the post i was responding too. but for example, jansen's restructure added a whole lot more money to the pot for him with the extra years.

That comment was a while ago, I don't quite remember what we were talking about. But yeah, when a contract is backloaded like ours always are, you have two choices: extend the contract or cut the player. There's always a third option: try to get the player to accept a paycut. That hardly ever goes over well, though.

Pocket$ $traight · 02-06-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

No, definitely not a paycut. I don't know why you're saying that?

He was due just over $8 million in base salary over 2007 and 2008. I haven't seen the terms, but my guess is his signing bonus with this extension will be in that range ($8 million or so). He'll then have vet minimum salaries for the first two or three years, and then the contract will be largely backloaded.

It's probably one of those 5 year deals that are only supposed to last 3 years before they're either restructured or he's let go. But it's definitely not a paycut.

His current deal was due to pay him 4.25 and 4.75 in salary for 07 and 08. His cap number was 5.85 and 6.35 respectively. The new deal averages 4.4 and I would suspect that it is a typical large bonus/backloaded deal so he will never see the big salaries in the contract. I have no idea what the numbers are but I would expect a salary of 1 or two million for the first two years so he did take a paycut from a salary perspective.

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Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Jansen's Future in Doubt? This move likely frees approximately $3.5 million in salary cap space for 2007. Dockery's 2007 cap number, when signed, will likely come in under $3.5 million against the cap. It appears that the team may have been hesitant to finalize a deal with Dockery until they had an agreement with Jansen to clear cap space. Jansen was the first domino in the line, Dock should be next. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 1,176	Re: Jansen's Future in Doubt? Jansen is also a LEADER on this team. We need him in the locker room and in the game to fire up the guys. He has been a Redskin his whole career, so I hope this deal keeps him here 'til he retires. The move was made so that we could re sign Dock. Watch...it's coming next. And by the way.. Dallas Sucks.

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