Perspective from Denver

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

what do u mean he regressed that is carzy!

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

In case you missed it, here's a line from Jim Armstrong's column in the Denver Post:


Just wondering: With NFL free agency just over the dashboard, what no-difference makers are the Redskins going to overpay this time? ...


Rather than get angry at him for saying something a lot closer to truth than falsehood, figure out a way to channel sensible vibes to the Skins' FO as the Free Agent Open Season comes closer and closer...

Im so sick of hearing how we dont build properly, what is building properly anyway? through the draft, i dont think so. Just ask the Texans,Browns,Cardinals,Lions and a few other teams how that has worked out for them. The NFL is hit or miss, we just seem to have bad luck when it comes to this. I hate the term "NFL expert" that they label those sports media douche bags with. All of them dogged on Drew Brees right before he blossomed, they said Chad Pennington was done, and said that Mike Vanderjagt was a great offseason acquisition that would help the cowboys to reach the superbowl, they really hit the nail on the head there. We have had our bad luck, i know, but give Joe Gibbs a chance to make things better. We were hammered by injuries last year, and we had to break in a new offense and QB(which should have been done earlier in the season). That guy is in denver, just ask them how that Gerard Warren extension worked out, or how about the Ian Gold signing two seasons ago, everybody messes up, were just the ones who happen to be under the microscope.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Im so sick of hearing how we dont build properly, what is building properly anyway? through the draft, i dont think so. Just ask the Texans,Browns,Cardinals,Lions and a few other teams how that has worked out for them. The NFL is hit or miss, we just seem to have bad luck when it comes to this. I hate the term "NFL expert" that they label those sports media douche bags with. All of them dogged on Drew Brees right before he blossomed, they said Chad Pennington was done, and said that Mike Vanderjagt was a great offseason acquisition that would help the cowboys to reach the superbowl, they really hit the nail on the head there. We have had our bad luck, i know, but give Joe Gibbs a chance to make things better. We were hammered by injuries last year, and we had to break in a new offense and QB(which should have been done earlier in the season). That guy is in denver, just ask them how that Gerard Warren extension worked out, or how about the Ian Gold signing two seasons ago, everybody messes up, were just the ones who happen to be under the microscope.

I agree whole heartedly with almost every point in that post. Bravo.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

no i love jason campbell i was just trying to compare him to someone but he is way way way way better than aaron brooks my brother thinks he is garbage but look for him to throw for about 2800 to 3300 yards this season with 22 to 28 tds

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Im so sick of hearing how we dont build properly, what is building properly anyway? through the draft, i dont think so. Just ask the Texans,Browns,Cardinals,Lions and a few other teams how that has worked out for them. The NFL is hit or miss, we just seem to have bad luck when it comes to this. I hate the term "NFL expert" that they label those sports media douche bags with. All of them dogged on Drew Brees right before he blossomed, they said Chad Pennington was done, and said that Mike Vanderjagt was a great offseason acquisition that would help the cowboys to reach the superbowl, they really hit the nail on the head there. We have had our bad luck, i know, but give Joe Gibbs a chance to make things better. We were hammered by injuries last year, and we had to break in a new offense and QB(which should have been done earlier in the season). That guy is in denver, just ask them how that Gerard Warren extension worked out, or how about the Ian Gold signing two seasons ago, everybody messes up, were just the ones who happen to be under the microscope.

lets not forget how denver basicaly brought in the clevland browns defensive line. last i heard, they're all about to be unemployed.
your post is right on the money.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

lets not forget how denver basicaly brought in the clevland browns defensive line. last i heard, they're all about to be unemployed.

The former Browns (now Bronco) defensive line was still #12 in the league against the run compared to our #27.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The former Browns (now Bronco) defensive line was still #12 in the league against the run compared to our #27.

big friggin deal, the broncos entire defense was much better than the skins last year. that doesn't change the fact that the broncos are now getting rid of those former browns. i would call that whole situation a bad front office move by the broncos, they should have never went after them in the first place.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

big friggin deal, the broncos entire defense was much better than the skins last year. that doesn't change the fact that the broncos are now getting rid of those former browns. i would call that whole situation a bad front office move by the broncos, they should have never went after them in the first place.

I'll take that bad front office move by the Broncos all day long over the cluster-f*cks this group of clowns gives us.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

true but alot of denver defense comes from their extremely fast linebackers and lynch's ability to support the run and good tackling corners DRAFTING ALAN BRANCH will move the redskins run d from 27th last year to at least 15th by himself and he will also help the passing defense and Nate Clements would move the pass d from 31st to at least 15th

[atomicnixon]

At least you can always count on the Redskins being the NFL Champion in free agency.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Earthquake:

If the best thing you can say about Jason Campbell is that he's a "better version of Aaron Brooks" then you don't think very much of Campbell. Brooks wore out his welcome in New Orleans and lost his job there; he went to Oakland and lost his job there to Andrew Walter who flat out STINKS. I'd start either of the Detmer brothers over Walter. Saying Campbell is better than Brooks means that Campbell doesn't trip over the yard lines when he runs and the ball eventually lands somewhere in the stadium when he throws it. Come on, you have to have something a LOT better to say about Jason Campbell than that...

Oh, and if Sean Taylor did not regress this year, then he stunk in his first two years too. That's what he did this year; he stunk. Don't know why that was the case because he is a physical juggernaut, but for whatever reasons, he just wasn't any good this year. Yes, I know he played in the Pro Bowl but if you get game tapes this year, he gave away as many TDs as Archuletta did. And when you play safety, there's a word for that kind of performance; UNACCEPTABLE.

Will Taylor get better? Probably. His physical skills ought to allow him to improve if he takes to even a little bit of coaching on fundamentals. But if he doesn't improve, the Redskins' defense is in trouble while he's back there at safety roaming around in places he shouldn't be and taking fakes he shouldn't take.

[djnemo65]

I know this point has been made many times before but I'm going to make it again. The problem is not with players like AA and Lloyd per say, but rather, with the lack of depth eschewing the draft leaves us with. Hence, when a player like Springs goes down, we have no body left to replace him. This is where third, fourth, and fifth round picks become important, guys whose careers are on the bubble, who are hungry, and trying desperately to make the case that they are NFL caliber players. We went into last season as a team not built to sustain any injuries to any key positions, and we saw how that worked out.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I know this point has been made many times before but I'm going to make it again. The problem is not with players like AA and Lloyd per say, but rather, with the lack of depth eschewing the draft leaves us with. Hence, when a player like Springs goes down, we have no body left to replace him. This is where third, fourth, and fifth round picks become important, guys whose careers are on the bubble, who are hungry, and trying desperately to make the case that they are NFL caliber players. We went into last season as a team not built to sustain any injuries to any key positions, and we saw how that worked out.

I hear what you're saying, but Lloyd cost us a third and a fourth. So he and Archuleta are exactly the problem you're speaking of.

There are monumental problems that mark this front office in every aspect -- retention of current "core" players, woeful miscalculations of free agents, the forfeiture of draft picks for said free agents, and the tendency for lackluster selections from the draft picks they do have.

I wish it were just one small adjustment in their personnel philosophy, but it's on much more of a grand scale than that.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I hear what you're saying, but Lloyd cost us a third and a fourth. So he and Archuleta are exactly the problem you're speaking of.

There are monumental problems that mark this front office in every aspect -- retention of current "core" players, woeful miscalculations of free agents, the forfeiture of draft picks for said free agents, and the tendency for lackluster selections from the draft picks they do have.

I wish it were just one small adjustment in their personnel philosophy, but it's on much more of a grand scale than that.

Well that's what I meant. The problem is with us mortgaging draft picks, not signing players.