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Old 02-23-2007, 11:57 AM   #1
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Re: Wright and Holdman Reportedly On Their Way Out

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Not a chance. Kenny Wright was just terrible this year and was a liability every time he stepped on the field. Walt Harris was a good player for the Skins...not Pro Bowl caliber, but he didn't make mistakes.
Aside from constantly getting run over and not making tackles.
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:21 PM   #2
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Aside from constantly getting run over and not making tackles.
True, he was too light to make the tackles that our LBs should have made, but at least he wasn't getting beat deep all the time.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:46 AM   #3
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Watch Kenny Wright pull a Walt Harris on us and go to the Pro Bowl next year.

They must really be planning on going after a CB this offseason because, as someone mentioned earlier, Wright is a decent nickel back.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:41 AM   #4
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Re: Wright and Holdman Reportedly On Their Way Out

No big surprise here.

A note on Rocky, I've heard that Lindsey may have been responsible for keeping him off the field last year. Look for him to play a much bigger role this year.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:12 AM   #5
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No big surprise here.

A note on Rocky, I've heard that Lindsey may have been responsible for keeping him off the field last year. Look for him to play a much bigger role this year.
That seems like it was the case. I think Lindsey's release somewhat justifies my anger over how the defense played last year.

Again, all the coaches can do is coach. I just wasn't convinced that our staff put people in the best position to succeed last year.

You have a guy like Rocky, with a lot of raw talent, riding the pine on a defense that was bad. It just didn't make sense why he wasn't getting more playing time. Rocky, Vilma, Taylor....OH my!!!..

On a side note, did anyone else find it interesting the Ravens chose not to franchise Adelius Thomas?
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:10 PM   #6
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No big surprise here.

A note on Rocky, I've heard that Lindsey may have been responsible for keeping him off the field last year. Look for him to play a much bigger role this year.
Lemar Marshall playing at his natural position of OLB will be a big boost. After a year of toughing it out playing against 300+ pound centers and guards at MLB he will find OLB much easier going against TE's. Lemar may bounce back strong and have a great year. London Fletcher at MLB, Washington a SLB and Lemar at WLB on obvious run plays will a strong lineup. Plus add Alan Branch to the mix at DT and stopping the run should be no problem.
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Lemar Marshall playing at his natural position OLB will be a big boost. After a year of toughing it out playing against 300+ pound centers and guards at MLB he will find OLB much easier going against TE's. Lemar may bounce back strong and have a great year.
Yeah, the signing of Fletcher gives us a great LB situation. In fact the biggest questionmark would have to be Fletcher, and the guy's a proven vet.
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Yeah, the signing of Fletcher gives us a great LB situation. In fact the biggest questionmark would have to be Fletcher, and the guy's a proven vet.
My other concern is #99. I am not yet convinced he is an everydown DE. He is not stout agains the run. I think alot of our problems against the run was in part to do with #99.
Gibbs defenses in the 80's & early 90's did alot of situation substitutions with great results.
Guys like DE's Marcus Koch & Todd Liebenstein, DT Darryl Grant and LB Rich Milot played on first down and obvious run plays.
LB Monte Coleman, DT Jumpy Geathers, etc. played on obvious pass plays. We had the personell at DE in 2006 to do a rotation, I am not sure why dictator Williams did not rotate them? I would have used Renaldo Wynn and Phillip Daniels on 1st down and obvious run plays. Andre Carter and Demtric Evans on 3rd and long and obvious pass plays. I know Daniels is usually our sack leader but he is also stout against the run and we had no other DE strong against the run but Daniels and Wynn. So by defalt they are the run stoppers. Obviusly you adjust your pattern depending on who you are playing and theri tendancies. This also keeps everyone fresh.
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My other concern is #99. I am not yet convinced he is an everydown DE. He is tiny. I think alot of our problems against the run was in part to do with #99.
I agree. It's usually not a good idea to have a starter on the defensive line with a glaring weakness against either the run or the pass.

I do think that we can build around his pass rushing skill though.
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My other concern is #99. I am not yet convinced he is an everydown DE. He is not stout agains the run. I think alot of our problems against the run was in part to do with #99....
I think I get what you're saying. The makeup of our DL isn't great. Griffin and Golston are both pass-rushinng DTs. We need someone on the DL who demands a double team. Improved play at MLB is also needed.
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Lemar Marshall playing at his natural position of OLB will be a big boost. After a year of toughing it out playing against 300+ pound centers and guards at MLB he will find OLB much easier going against TE's. Lemar may bounce back strong and have a great year. London Fletcher at MLB, Washington a SLB and Lemar at WLB on obvious run plays will a strong lineup. Plus add Alan Branch to the mix at DT and stopping the run should be no problem.
Bring Rocky off the bench then? Wright wasn't great but letting him go doesn't help (along with Vincent) doesn't help our depth issues in the secondary.
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Bring Rocky off the bench then? Wright wasn't great but letting him go doesn't help (along with Vincent) doesn't help our depth issues in the secondary.
Good point. Vincent and Wright both gone? Springs likely gone? Who does that leave?

I know this had to happen, and it's probably a good thing since none of these guys worked for our secondary. I hope the front office has some good ideas for replacing these guys. Besides Clements, who sounds more and more like a lost cause for the Redskins with every article I read, who else is out there?
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:08 PM   #13
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Bring Rocky off the bench then? Wright wasn't great but letting him go doesn't help (along with Vincent) doesn't help our depth issues in the secondary.
Rocky off the bench? Not necessarily. Let Rocky and Lemar fight out in trainning camp. You could find their strength and weakness' and sub them according to situation on the field.
I agree with your concern about depth in the secondary. I might have kept Vincent despite his age, the guy was producing. We could have used him as a back up. Wright is not producing.
I think we will keep Springs.
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No big surprise here.

A note on Rocky, I've heard that Lindsey may have been responsible for keeping him off the field last year. Look for him to play a much bigger role this year.
First time I've seen "this year". Crap, I'm getting anxious already!
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:41 AM   #15
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I am fine with Wright staying as long as he isn't starting corner, I AM NOT COOL with Holdman staying.
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