Skins expected to sign Fletcher

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

he's definately not as good as ray lewis in the middle. never said he was to begin with.

there is no infatuation, i just think he was a good mlb and a very good olb.

absolutely taylor gets just as much blame for the defensive struggles as marshall does. taylor had a bad year, compared to his first two.

If Marshall is a "good" middle linebacker, why is MLB their #1 priority in the offseason? When he was an OLB he had 48 tackles. How does that make him "very good"?

We will have to agree to disagree. A middle linebacker should be the heart and soul of a defense, not a free safety. I have said it several times. Show me a defense where a safety leads the team in tackles and I will show you a bad defense.

Taylor had 30 more tackles than Marshall last year. That is unacceptable even for an average MLB.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

If Marshall is a "good" middle linebacker, why is MLB their #1 priority in the offseason? When he was an OLB he had 48 tackles. How does that make him "very good"?

We will have to agree to disagree. A middle linebacker should be the heart and soul of a defense, not a free safety. I have said it several times. Show me a defense where a safety leads the team in tackles and I will show you a bad defense.

Taylor had 30 more tackles than Marshall last year. That is unacceptable even for an average MLB.

MLB isn't their #1 priority, the D-line is and for good reason. Marshall is a small MLB and when the D-line can't keep O-linemen off of the LBs (as they couldn't in 2006), it's not surprising that a smaller LB doesn't perform at a high level (particularly when he is suffering from an ankle injury all season long).

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

MLB isn't their #1 priority, the D-line is and for good reason. Marshall is a small MLB and when the D-line can't keep O-linemen off of the LBs (as they couldn't in 2006), it's not surprising that a smaller LB doesn't perform at a high level (particularly when he is suffering from an ankle injury all season long).

Straight from the post: "Middle linebacker London Fletcher (Buffalo) is Washington's primary free agent target, team sources said"

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Straight from the post: "Middle linebacker London Fletcher (Buffalo) is Washington's primary free agent target, team sources said"

If you know something that the Washington Post doesn't, please fill us in.

"primary free agent target" is not the same thing as priority. Just so happens that free agency occurs before the draft.

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

"primary free agent target" is not the same thing as priority. Just so happens that free agency occurs before the draft.

You guys are dealing with semantics. All I know is a week before free agency they essentially have a deal completed with a middle linebacker. Not a D end and not a D tackle. What Snyder wants, he gets immediately and he wants Fletcher.

I hate to break this to everyone but the bottom line is that Lemar Marshall is not what you are claiming he is. If he was, they wouldn't have a deal in place with a free agent MLB a week before free agency starts. You can argue with me all day long but I am correct on this one. Don't get upset when he is behind Rocky next year either. The only way that I see Marshall starting is if Washington takes longer to return.

Marshall provides us with great depth next year but he does bring to the table what Pierce did and G Williams understands better than anyone else that this defense needs a big time tackler in the middle. Lemar Marshall in two years in the middle has not provided the production that our teem needs.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. He made a big play against Dallas this year and the interception against Philly last year was incredible but our team is better with him on the bench.

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

You guys are dealing with semantics. All I know is a week before free agency they essentially have a deal completed with a middle linebacker. Not a D end and not a D tackle. What Snyder wants, he gets immediately and he wants Fletcher.

I hate to break this to everyone but the bottom line is that Lemar Marshall is not what you are claiming he is. If he was, they wouldn't have a deal in place with a free agent MLB a week before free agency starts. You can argue with me all day long but I am correct on this one. Don't get upset when he is behind Rocky next year either. The only way that I see Marshall starting is if Washington takes longer to return.

Marshall provides us with great depth next year but he does bring to the table what Pierce did and G Williams understands better than anyone else that this defense needs a big time tackler in the middle. Lemar Marshall in two years in the middle has not provided the production that our teem needs.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. He made a big play against Dallas this year and the interception against Philly last year was incredible but our team is better with him on the bench.

well put london fletcher baker is one of the smartest signings we have done and lemar off the bench would be great cause rocky gotta start sometime we gave all that stuff up for him

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I hate to break this to everyone but the bottom line is that Lemar Marshall is not what you are claiming he is. If he was, they wouldn't have a deal in place with a free agent MLB a week before free agency starts. You can argue with me all day long but I am correct on this one. Don't get upset when he is behind Rocky next year either. The only way that I see Marshall starting is if Washington takes longer to return.

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you could be right but like you said earlier, me and you will just have to agree to disagree. it's just two different opinions of how good or not good lemar marshall is.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

You guys are dealing with semantics. All I know is a week before free agency they essentially have a deal completed with a middle linebacker. Not a D end and not a D tackle. What Snyder wants, he gets immediately and he wants Fletcher.

We're not dealing with semantics. You said that MLB was our #1 priority and some of us disagreed and said that MLB was our FA #1 priority. There's a difference. And while I do not doubt that we will get Fletcher, I highly doubt the reports from the world's most credible news agency, Profootballtalk.com, that we already have a deal in place with Fletcher. If Gibbs & Co. were dumb enough to tamper with another team's player by reaching contract terms with them prior ot the start of FA, they wouldn't be SO dumb as to tell PFT.

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I hate to break this to everyone but the bottom line is that Lemar Marshall is not what you are claiming he is. If he was, they wouldn't have a deal in place with a free agent MLB a week before free agency starts. You can argue with me all day long but I am correct on this one. Don't get upset when he is behind Rocky next year either. The only way that I see Marshall starting is if Washington takes longer to return.

The only thing people have been saying is that Marshall is not as bad as you have been claiming. I simply don't know how you can say that Rocky is better than Marshall, without having seen Rocky take more than 4 quarters of snaps on defense in professional football. I know that you attribute Rocky's lack of playing time to some personal animus a coach has towards Rocky, but I don't know how you can say that without having seen him on the field. In any event, I wouldn't care who started ahead of whom next season (Rocky over Marshall or vice-versa), I trust that coaches start the best player.

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

We're not dealing with semantics. You said that MLB was our #1 priority and some of us disagreed and said that MLB was our FA #1 priority. There's a difference. And while I do not doubt that we will get Fletcher, I highly doubt the reports from the world's most credible news agency, Profootballtalk.com, that we already have a deal in place with Fletcher. If Gibbs & Co. were dumb enough to tamper with another team's player by reaching contract terms with them prior ot the start of FA, they wouldn't be SO dumb as to tell PFT.



The only thing people have been saying is that Marshall is not as bad as you have been claiming. I simply don't know how you can say that Rocky is better than Marshall, without having seen Rocky take more than 4 quarters of snaps on defense in professional football. I know that you attribute Rocky's lack of playing time to some personal animus a coach has towards Rocky, but I don't know how you can say that without having seen him on the field. In any event, I wouldn't care who started ahead of whom next season (Rocky over Marshall or vice-versa), I trust that coaches start the best player.

You trust the coaches more than I do but I do believe this is the "make or break year" for all of them. G-dub will leave his ego at the door and start the best players.

I totally agree with the guy who said that Washington, Fletcher, Rocky and Lemar is a good linebacking corps. If they get Fletcher they turn an obvious hole into a strength (until someone goes down, of course).