Insider info on Smoot from ESPN

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

I couldnt agree more. Bly has like 10 years in the league and is looking for the Redskins to give him a comfortable retirement.

The Smoot signing was terrible. His best days are behind him and like someone else said he had Champ playing with him and covering the opposition's best WR. Smoot went to MN as THE MAN and ended up losing his job. Smoot was NFL trash blowing down the street and for some reason the Skins could not resist picking it up.

It's obvious why Bly wants to be a Redskin. If we give him a 3 year deal I would be okay with the trade. Plus, La Canfora said that if the trade does happen, we will get for our 6th pick: Bly, Denver's 1st rd pick (21), a 3rd round pick and possibly a 2nd round pick. That's definitely worth it. Then we could trade Springs for even more draft picks.

And I don't think the Smoot signing was terrible. His best days are behind him?? What? He's only 27!! Minnesota was a team in transition while he was there, and he played under multiple head coaches/coordinators and never fit in. It obviously affected his play. While with us he played at a pro bowl level, was a locker room favorite, and led the team in INT's a couple of times. Plus he could have gotten an even bigger contract than the one we gave him if he had played the market, but he just wanted to come home. I LOVE that Freddy is back, and I couldn't disagree more with what you say here...

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's obvious why Bly wants to be a Redskin. If we give him a 3 year deal I would be okay with the trade. Plus, La Canfora said that if the trade does happen, we will get for our 6th pick: Bly, Denver's 1st rd pick (21), a 3rd round pick and possibly a 2nd round pick. That's definitely worth it. Then we could trade Springs for even more draft picks.

And I don't think the Smoot signing was terrible. His best days are behind him?? What? He's only 27!! Minnesota was a team in transition while he was there, and he played under multiple head coaches/coordinators and never fit in. It obviously affected his play. While with us he played at a pro bowl level, was a locker room favorite, and led the team in INT's a couple of times. Plus he could have gotten an even bigger contract than the one we gave him if he had played the market, but he just wanted to come home. I LOVE that Freddy is back, and I couldn't disagree more with what you say here...

The Redskins are the ultimate "team in Transition" team. They are always in transition so if being on a transition team bothers Smoot he's really in trouble here. Anything having to do with Smoot's stats on theSkins was 3 seasons ago which is a lifetime in the NFL. They are essentially meaningless. God Bless You if you believe the coming home stuff, I'm not as easily fooled. I heard a lot about how Smoot could have gotten a lot of other higher offers (mostly from the Skins & Smoot) but never actually saw one of these offers. I dont think Smoot was the hot FA most in Redskins land want to think he was.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

The Redskins are the ultimate "team in Transition" team. They are always in transition so if being on a transition team bothers Smoot he's really in trouble here. Anything having to do with Smoot's stats on theSkins was 3 seasons ago which is a lifetime in the NFL. They are essentially meaningless. God Bless You if you believe the coming home stuff, I'm not as easily fooled. I heard a lot about how Smoot could have gotten a lot of other higher offers (mostly from the Skins & Smoot) but never actually saw one of these offers. I dont think Smoot was the hot FA most in Redskins land want to think he was.

He's a definite upgrade from Mike friggin Rumph or Kenny Wright, he's better than Ade Jimoh, and Springs' health is waaaayyy too iffy and he's 5 years older than Smoot. I heard that Smoot could have gotten more money from Tom Boswell of the Wash Post, not Smoot himself or the Skins. Plus the deal we gave him isn't as rich as initially reported. Yes he got a $7M signing bonus, but after that it's essentially $11.5M over three years (according to LaCanfora). Plus Smoot has played for G.Williams before, and knows a lot of the guys on this team. I just don't believe at 27 his best days are behind him, and I don't think it was a "terrible" move.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by irish

The Redskins are the ultimate "team in Transition" team. They are always in transition so if being on a transition team bothers Smoot he's really in trouble here. Anything having to do with Smoot's stats on theSkins was 3 seasons ago which is a lifetime in the NFL. They are essentially meaningless. God Bless You if you believe the coming home stuff, I'm not as easily fooled. I heard a lot about how Smoot could have gotten a lot of other higher offers (mostly from the Skins & Smoot) but never actually saw one of these offers. I dont think Smoot was the hot FA most in Redskins land want to think he was.

I understand your argument, but Smoot isn't asked to come back and be "The man" here. He's asked to play a #2 or #3 corner which I think it's pretty widely accepted that he's a #2,#3 caliber player.

He had a lot of off the field distraction over in Minn. and there is no question that it effected his game, so it's not unreasonable to think he will improve.

As far as us being in transition, I say look at what we're doing in the offseason. I really don't feel like this is a transition at all. We're keeping virtually the entire o line, bringing back campbell as the starter, holding on to all of our coaches minus lindsay, and we're coming off a late season rally.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by irish

The Redskins are the ultimate "team in Transition" team. They are always in transition so if being on a transition team bothers Smoot he's really in trouble here. Anything having to do with Smoot's stats on theSkins was 3 seasons ago which is a lifetime in the NFL. They are essentially meaningless. God Bless You if you believe the coming home stuff, I'm not as easily fooled. I heard a lot about how Smoot could have gotten a lot of other higher offers (mostly from the Skins & Smoot) but never actually saw one of these offers. I dont think Smoot was the hot FA most in Redskins land want to think he was.

Yes. They are always team transition. - Oh except that its the same D-coordinator as when he left, and, oh yeah, the head coach is the same too.
They play the same defense, and, let's see, M. Washington, Shawn Taylor, C. Griffin - he played with several of the same starters.

As for not hearing of any other offers - we'll get the memo circulated that offers must first be submitted to Offiss for proper scrutiny.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Yes. They are always team transition. - Oh except that its the same D-coordinator as when he left, and, oh yeah, the head coach is the same too.
They play the same defense, and, let's see, M. Washington, Shawn Taylor, C. Griffin - he played with several of the same starters.

As for not hearing of any other offers - we'll get the memo circulated that offers must first be submitted to Offiss for proper scrutiny.

A lot of guy's get mad because some of us seem to be knocking the Skins the majority of the time, I know it's more fun to root for your team than slam it, but the fact is the knocks are not unwarrented, the Skins constantly screw up thats why we are the laughing stock amoungst the NFL, so to point that out doesn't mean we are mean individuals, it just means we are pointing out our usual screw up with personel and venting our frustration. I personally don't have a prob with the Smoot signing, he's not a #1 CB but he's not paid like one either. The fact is management has not shown the ability to learn from thier mistakes, although I will give them big up's for not resigning Dock who was a big waste of space, a poor man's Big Daddy on the offensive side of the ball. I have alway's liked Fletcher but not at 10 and a half mil up front and at 32, all because we threw away our draft picks, Skins management doesn't believe you can find serious talent in the draft and look to short cut it with sub par talent with big price tags waving the proverbial flag of they have experience. Sorry but we could have built a perenial SB contender with the amount of talent we have passed up in the draft either through lowsey picks or trading away picks that could have brought back big time talent in the draft, and there doesn't seem to be an end!