Falcons Trade Matt Schaub to Houston

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by dmek25

nothing personal, but there is no way the skins want anything to do with Johnson, other then trading him. the simple fact is we have much greater needs then a wide out. regardless of how good anyone thinks he will be. i don't know why anyone would want him, as dreadful as our defense was last season. and i am one who isnt sold on shaub. a second for him is a coup for the falcons

Unfortunately that's the type of mentality our front office has of picking for need as if we're one player away. Take the best player available, especially if he is as can't miss as Johnson. No way anyone can think that he wouldn't be an upgrade over Lloyd and Thrash.. Moss is set at #1 and Randle-El is a strong #3, if Johnson falls we'd be FOOLS not to pick him.

[Smurf85]

Well this kills the possibility of us getting CJ.I am pretty sure Alt is going to move up to get him now.They have the picks to do it thats for sure.I expect to see Alt move up to #2.All they have to do is flop picks with Detroit throw in a 2nd rounder this year and one next year.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

Well this kills the possibility of us getting CJ.I am pretty sure Alt is going to move up to get him now.They have the picks to do it thats for sure.I expect to see Alt move up to #2.All they have to do is flop picks with Detroit throw in a 2nd rounder this year and one next year.

What if Oakland gets David Carr and then decides to draft CJ? Who would the Lions get with the 8th pick? Brady Quinn likely wouldn't be there. JaMarcus Russell wouldn't be there and neither would Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson. It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out- and affects the Skins...

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Unfortunately that's the type of mentality our front office has of picking for need as if we're one player away. Take the best player available, especially if he is as can't miss as Johnson. No way anyone can think that he wouldn't be an upgrade over Lloyd and Thrash.. Moss is set at #1 and Randle-El is a strong #3, if Johnson falls we'd be FOOLS not to pick him.

These are my thoughts exactly. We aren't one player away, which in my reasoning, if Johnson is there we take him. Period.

CJ is a bigger upgrade as his respective position than any of the available defensive lineman are at theirs.

[wilsowilso]

Atlanta has the ammo to trade up now. Their number ten pick and two high seconds could get them Calvin Johnson at #4 maybe. Or they could give us one of those second rounders and move to #6. That would be fine with me.

[Big C]

i think that schaub is valued too high, he hasnt proven much in the nfl and i think theres a good chance he could be a big dissapointment

[Southpaw]

I still don't quite understand the fascination with Matt Schaub. The guy has started two games in his career. Granted, he's shown some flashes, but his career TD to INT ratio is 1:1 and his lifetime passer rating is 69.2. Can anyone say AJ Feeley?

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I still don't quite understand the fascination with Matt Schaub. The guy has started two games in his career. Granted, he's shown some flashes, but his career TD to INT ratio is 1:1 and his lifetime passer rating is 69.2. Can anyone say AJ Feeley?

AJ Feeley. Hey, that wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.

[SmootSmack]

I think the fascination is simply because he's been backing up a QB preordained to be the NFL's savior who hasn't lived up to it. And with Vick struggling, who is more popular than his backup? I don't know why, but I think Jake Delhomme when I think of Schaub

[dmek25]

on the pro level, who do you think he compares with?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

on the pro level, who do you think he compares with?

Honestly, I would say Jerry Rice. I'm not saying he's that right here, right now. But from what I've seen of him, heard of him, he's got it.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by dmek25

on the pro level, who do you think he compares with?

Kinda hard to compare this kid with anyone for me....haven't seen much from him yet, in the shadow of vick??

He had a really good college stint in Va.

However, if they get this guy I really think he's gonna be just fine or BETTER. Good Move.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

on the pro level, who do you think he compares with?

This has Rob Johnson written all over it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This has Rob Johnson written all over it.

Well, there are a lot of differences between Rob Johnson and Matt Schaub. I don't think that was a good comparison.

Schaub completed 67% of his passes in 32 starts at Virginia. That's very good. However, he wasn't espicially highly sought after coming out of college.

We can either say:

1. The scouts were wrong. They simply overlooked this guy.
OR
2. Schaub's stats are a product of his college system.

I'd put my money on the former. Al Groh hasn't exactly pumped out QBs since Schaub left.

Schaub can be very good, and I'm almost certain he will represent an improvement over Carr. But he's NOT a sure thing because of his draft position. He's got a lot of stuff to prove to the scouts who didn't give him a top two round grade.

Rob Johnson, on the other hand, was a talentless QB. Everyone knew that but Wade Phillips.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, there are a lot of differences between Rob Johnson and Matt Schaub. I don't think that was a good comparison.

Schaub completed 67% of his passes in 32 starts at Virginia. That's very good. However, he wasn't espicially highly sought after coming out of college.

We can either say:

1. The scouts were wrong. They simply overlooked this guy.
OR
2. Schaub's stats are a product of his college system.

I'd put my money on the former. Al Groh hasn't exactly pumped out QBs since Schaub left.

Schaub can be very good, and I'm almost certain he will represent an improvement over Carr. But he's NOT a sure thing because of his draft position. He's got a lot of stuff to prove to the scouts who didn't give him a top two round grade.

Rob Johnson, on the other hand, was a talentless QB. Everyone knew that but Wade Phillips.

I don't care about his college stats. Look at his professional stats. He is below 50%. I think one game when he filled in for Vick he was 17-42. Guy played terrible. I understand he does have some upside but two 2nd rounders and a 1st round swap? That's way too high. Plus what have the Texans done to upgrade the o-line? Texans have NO CLUE what they are doing overpaying for an unproven QB.