Skins need to free up cap room

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Your math on Archuleta and Patten is off.

CC's cap sheets include Archuleta on the books for $2.4 million and Patten on the books for $3.2 million. Archuleta's dead cap hit is $4.5 million, so that's $2.1 million more than he was on the books for. And Patten's dead cap hit is $3.5 million, which is only $300K more than he was on the books for.

So $9.7 million of room, minus Archuleta's incremental hit of $2.1, minus Patten's incremental hit of $300K, equals $7.3 million in room, not the $5.3 you quoted.

Then layer in the Frost (500K beyond the rule of 51), Yoder (500K beyond the rule of 51), Boschetti (500K beyond the rule of 51), and Stoutmire (500K beyond the rule of 51). Don't forget, all of those guys are signing for around the vet minimum, but Frost isn't the only one that has the rule of 51 applied. I'd say between the 4 of them, they make up $2 million.

Remember, everytime we add somebody, we're bumping a young guy's salary out of the top 51. So if Stoutmire signs for the vet minimum of $800K, we bump a young guy worth $300K out of the top 51. So the damage for each of those guys is likely only $500K or so.

So $7.3 million minus $2 million, I come up with $5.3 million in room.

Then there's Wade, who probably takes up $2.3 million. Leaves us with about $3.0 million.

That's plenty of space for rookies. If we needed more (for Bly), we can still shed Renaldo Wynn or Todd Collins.

We're fine.

I might be missing something but CC's cap sheets says the release fee for Patten this year is 5.3 and his salary is 3.0, which has a difference of 2.3. I heard that arch's hit is 4.5 which is 2.1 more than his salary for this year. You add 2.3 and 2.1 and subtract it from 9.7 and you get 5.3.

And we already 2 players that counted towards the rule of 51. So now we are 4 players short of filling a full roster. I added 5 players so we only subtract one player that gets kicked off, so 4 of those players full contracts counts and the remaining one has 300k or so subtracted off his contract.

My earlier numbers were generous, in reality all the players besides Wade should get around 800k. Wade should probably really get closer to 2.6 mil. That is 5.5 mil more off the cap (800k*3-300k+2.6mil). That is 200k over the cap with no draft picks signed, no starting Gaurd (and its not Wade, we are shopping for others), and not many options to restructure much money.