Jeff Garcia signs w/ Cleveland

[JWsleep]

Lol, Johnnyred. Look, if he didn't come out of the closet in San Fancisco, he's not coming out in Cleveland!

[Beemnseven]

You know, it sure sucks that Cleveland passed up Donovan McNabb for Couch, huh?

I would much rather deal with Couch twice a year.

[Daseal]

Beem, it's impossible to tell on draft day. Also, there's a reason McNabb fell. He can't win the big games. Couldn't in college, still can't. McChoke may never make it to the big game with Gibbs back.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Beem, it's impossible to tell on draft day. Also, there's a reason McNabb fell. He can't win the big games. Couldn't in college, still can't. McChoke may never make it to the big game with Gibbs back.

Well, let's hope not. McNabb always seems to have big games against the Redskins. That's the thing, at least they make it to the big games.

I have to believe that Andy Reid will have them in tip top shape ready to challenge for the NFC Championship again. But, they can't stay in top form forever. Their window of opportunity has to be closing. Reid obviously was far and away better than the coaching staff we've had for the past two seasons. He was toying with Spurrier the way my dog plays with stuffed animals -- viciously tears them apart, then casually tosses them aside as though they were nothing.

Gibbs will be a much different animal than Spurrier was. Andy Reid will have to work double time for Redskin week this year!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Gentlemen:

Ryan Leaf was not the #1 pick in the draft; he was #2.

Rick Mirer was not the #1 pick in the draft; he was #2.

Akili Smith was not the #1 pick in the draft; he was #3.

Tony Mandarich was not the #1 pick in the draft; he was #2.

Jake Plummer was not the #1 pick in the draft; he was waay down the list. I think he was #5.

McNabb did not "drop" on draft day because he went #2 overall and the reason that Cleveland took Couch #1 is that they wanted to have a deal negotiated with Couch and his agent prior to the draft so that there would be no hold-out since Cleveland was an expansion franchise that year. (they did the same with Courtney Brown the next year.) Since Couch was willing to take their deal and McNabb's and Akili Smith's agents were not, the Browns took Couch.

Just goes to show that if you take some extraneous standard and apply it to the draft - or to free agency - and it does not deal directly with "who is the best football player?", you get in trouble.

Here's an overall #1 pick that was a real gem for his career. Jeff George!

Give me a choice between Couch and George and I'll take Couch any day of the week that ends in the letter "Y".