Skins stuck at No. 6?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by offiss

Gtripp, I really have to start questioning your eye for talent, first you have Bowe going in the top 5, then you have Taylor out the door because Landry is a better player if we draft him? Are you kidding? You don't draft 1 safety to replace a young all pro safety who's proven, and I would fall over if Landry turned out to be as much as equal to Taylor as a football player, if Landry is drafted it's to compliment Taylor as well as free him up to free lance a little more and allow him to ball hawk and go for the big hit, as well to provide more help for our CB's. Carter IMO was a waste, we saw last season why the 9ers tried to move him to LB, but to say it's the end of him? There is such a thing as a salary cap, good luck dumping his contract.

I would like to know what's so great about Okoye? Other than the fact that he play's D-line?

Okoye is 19 with 4 years of college experience, and yet, still he's a very dominant player. Quite simply, a player like him will never come again. He's the once in a lifetime prospect in this draft. If you wanted a guy with CJ type of talent, you could go trade for Randy Moss. If you wanted Okoye you'd have to draft him.

Back to your initial paragraph, I don't have Bowe going in the top 5. I'm saying that Dwayne Bowe is going to be one of the 5 or 6 best players to come out of the first round of this draft, and the best receiver in this class. This may sound like heresy to people who read dradt websites all day and listen to sportswriters rave about Calvin Johnson's skill, but that's really not what being a good receiver is all about. Good receivers have to be smart and experienced and Dwayne Bowe has one more year of starting experience in a tougher conference than Johnson does. I believe he will transition to the NFL much better than Johnson will.

I also believe that with all the hype around Johnson, the physical abilities of a guy like Bowe are being overlooked. He's 33% more prepared for the NFL than Johnson is--or will ever be--and I don't believe the gap in skill is all that much. That's why I'm certain that Bowe will be the better player.

I hate to use the theory of natural selection to explain a point in football, especially since I'm kinda religious and believe that natural selection is just a pricipal of natural law, but I'm about to make a point with it. Sean Taylor's ability to come up and hit the ballcarrier is always fun to watch. But at the end of the play, its no more effective than any other type of tackle that stops the ballcarrier in his tracks. The NFL is transistioning to a faster league on the interrior, which means that safeties without great cover skills are starting to become more of a liability to their teams then they were a decade ago. Roy Williams is a prime example. He's a great safety if he's playing in the 90's. But his lack of cover skills costs the Cowboys A LOT of points. Guys like him are becoming obsolete, and he will never even be an average safety in this league. Taylor isn't quite as bad, but he's not nearly as dominant as his rep would have you think. He also costs the Redskins some points by lacking cover skills. He can cover somewhat well, so at least he deserves to be a starter.

Guys like Landry are instinctive and impressive in coverage. They are the truely valuable safeties in today's game. Landry will have a long impressive career, and won't cost his team anything in points that any other safety in the league would have stopped. He's great value.

Guys like Williams are becoming extinct, and its that same phenemon that hurts Taylor's effect as a player.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Okoye is 19 with 4 years of college experience, and yet, still he's a very dominant player. Quite simply, a player like him will never come again. He's the once in a lifetime prospect in this draft. If you wanted a guy with CJ type of talent, you could go trade for Randy Moss. If you wanted Okoye you'd have to draft him.

Back to your initial paragraph, I don't have Bowe going in the top 5. I'm saying that Dwayne Bowe is going to be one of the 5 or 6 best players to come out of the first round of this draft, and the best receiver in this class. This may sound like heresy to people who read dradt websites all day and listen to sportswriters rave about Calvin Johnson's skill, but that's really not what being a good receiver is all about. Good receivers have to be smart and experienced and Dwayne Bowe has one more year of starting experience in a tougher conference than Johnson does. I believe he will transition to the NFL much better than Johnson will.

I also believe that with all the hype around Johnson, the physical abilities of a guy like Bowe are being overlooked. He's 33% more prepared for the NFL than Johnson is--or will ever be--and I don't believe the gap in skill is all that much. That's why I'm certain that Bowe will be the better player.

I hate to use the theory of natural selection to explain a point in football, especially since I'm kinda religious and believe that natural selection is just a pricipal of natural law, but I'm about to make a point with it. Sean Taylor's ability to come up and hit the ballcarrier is always fun to watch. But at the end of the play, its no more effective than any other type of tackle that stops the ballcarrier in his tracks. The NFL is transistioning to a faster league on the interrior, which means that safeties without great cover skills are starting to become more of a liability to their teams then they were a decade ago. Roy Williams is a prime example. He's a great safety if he's playing in the 90's. But his lack of cover skills costs the Cowboys A LOT of points. Guys like him are becoming obsolete, and he will never even be an average safety in this league. Taylor isn't quite as bad, but he's not nearly as dominant as his rep would have you think. He also costs the Redskins some points by lacking cover skills. He can cover somewhat well, so at least he deserves to be a starter.

Guys like Landry are instinctive and impressive in coverage. They are the truely valuable safeties in today's game. Landry will have a long impressive career, and won't cost his team anything in points that any other safety in the league would have stopped. He's great value.

Guys like Williams are becoming extinct, and its that same phenemon that hurts Taylor's effect as a player.

ok i like the way you explained yourself but since when does sean taylor not have good cover skills the problem is in 06 he had no safety help so he had to try to do everything himself in 05 and in his rookie season in 04 he had ryan clark everyone remember him to help out what he needs is someone in the secondary to take all the pressure off of him what peoples problem is that they expect him to break records every week so anything less is considered failure but look at the top ballhawking safties in the league they all have someone helping in the secondary no one is doing it alone

ed reed- chris mccalister, samari rolle
brian dawkins- lito shepard, sheldon brown
troy polamalu- had chris hope when he was gone troy struggled a bit even though he made the pro bowl

but getting a safety somewhere somehow or one of our corners becoing shutdown is key for us in 2007

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

ok i like the way you explained yourself but since when does sean taylor not have good cover skills the problem is in 06 he had no safety help so he had to try to do everything himself in 05 and in his rookie season in 04 he had ryan clark everyone remember him to help out what he needs is someone in the secondary to take all the pressure off of him what peoples problem is that they expect him to break records every week so anything less is considered failure but look at the top ballhawking safties in the league they all have someone helping in the secondary no one is doing it alone

ed reed- chris mccalister, samari rolle
brian dawkins- lito shepard, sheldon brown
troy polamalu- had chris hope when he was gone troy struggled a bit even though he made the pro bowl

but getting a safety somewhere somehow or one of our corners becoing shutdown is key for us in 2007

Sean wasn't especially good in coverage in 04 or 05, but he regressed majorly this year. There is NO excuse for him being out of position as much as he was this year and biting on any backfield action that moves. He's got the potential to be an above average safety in this league, but only if he corrects the undisciplined play that plagued him in 2006.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Sean wasn't especially good in coverage in 04 or 05, but he regressed majorly this year. There is NO excuse for him being out of position as much as he was this year and biting on any backfield action that moves. He's got the potential to be an above average safety in this league, but only if he corrects the undisciplined play that plagued him in 2006.

he will be a dominant safety

[Tha Posse]

What pick is Okoye projected to be in the draft? After reading that article today I'm sold on him.