What are we going to do at DE?

budw38 · 04-26-2007, 05:33 PM

If coach really thinks that there are no rookies that can start on this team he is nuts !!! 5 or six of the DE's could get more sacks in two games than Danials & wynn ever could . At least 5 WR's are better than Loyd , and I find it hard to believe that not 1 DB could crack our starting lineup . Willis and Puslunski could probably start and be an upgrade . I guess if SF offers us a first rd pick for Danials or Salave we will turn it down because Anderson / Carriker could not make the team < or have to ride the pine > .

jsarno · 04-26-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

If coach really thinks that there are no rookies that can start on this team he is nuts !!! 5 or six of the DE's could get more sacks in two games than Danials & wynn ever could . At least 5 WR's are better than Loyd , and I find it hard to believe that not 1 DB could crack our starting lineup . Willis and Puslunski could probably start and be an upgrade . I guess if SF offers us a first rd pick for Danials or Salave we will turn it down because Anderson / Carriker could not make the team < or have to ride the pine > .

When are we as collective Skins fans going to realize that Gibbs lies? He lied about why he left for NASCAR (citing that his kid kissed him and he noticed a beard so he needed to spend more time with family and fewer hours in the office...18 hours a day in NASCAR is not it...although you can twist that since he had a some there), he lied about Ramsey being the man, just to turn it over to Brunell, he is lieing about not being able to get a "starter". Maybe using the term LIE is too harsh, but the point remains the same. He plays his own game, and sends smoke screens whenever he can to make things seem better than they are. He'd be the type to say we need to focus on DE, then take a QB first pick. Don't get me wrong, I like Gibbs, but he will say what he needs to so he can achieve the results he wants.

jsarno · 04-26-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

At least 5 WR's are better than Loyd

It frustrates me to see this from people. Lloyd is a VERY GOOD wr. You have to have the ball thrown to you to make an impact. He was not used in the system and therefore no production. WR is unlike many position on the field because you are only successful if someone helps you out (QB). You are completely reliant on the QB. The man is very talented.
Trust me, if CJ goes to a crappy team with a crappy qb and gets thrown to at max twice a game...he'll be lucky to register 20 receptions, then everyone here will say, wow, he has no talent, he was overhyped. It's all about opportunity.

budw38 · 04-26-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

It frustrates me to see this from people. Lloyd is a VERY GOOD wr. You have to have the ball thrown to you to make an impact. He was not used in the system and therefore no production. WR is unlike many position on the field because you are only successful if someone helps you out (QB). You are completely reliant on the QB. The man is very talented.
Trust me, if CJ goes to a crappy team with a crappy qb and gets thrown to at max twice a game...he'll be lucky to register 20 receptions, then everyone here will say, wow, he has no talent, he was overhyped. It's all about opportunity.

I never said he was not good or lacked talent . I was pointing out Gibbs comment that no rookie could crack our starting lineup . If T. Ginn Jr. is on the board at 32 , and the Colts offer me that pick for Loyd ,,, I make that pick. Same goes for Rocky , if Willis is on the board , and a team offers me the pick ,,, I make the trade . I was just making the point that many of these rookies are talented enough to contribute or start . I just hope we grab some extra picks , draft some DL-men and an OL men , because before we know it Samuels / Jansen / Thomas ....// Wynn / Danials / griffen / Salavae will be retired . And Fletcher , Washington are not so young either .

jsarno · 04-27-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by budw38

I never said he was not good or lacked talent . I was pointing out Gibbs comment that no rookie could crack our starting lineup . If T. Ginn Jr. is on the board at 32 , and the Colts offer me that pick for Loyd ,,, I make that pick. Same goes for Rocky , if Willis is on the board , and a team offers me the pick ,,, I make the trade . I was just making the point that many of these rookies are talented enough to contribute or start . I just hope we grab some extra picks , draft some DL-men and an OL men , because before we know it Samuels / Jansen / Thomas ....// Wynn / Danials / griffen / Salavae will be retired . And Fletcher , Washington are not so young either .

Alright...I apologize for jumping all over you. I'm just tired of hearing that Brandon Lloyd is not good and we need a WR. We don't. We just need our QB to produce. Something we haven't really seen since Brad Johnson.

KLHJ2 · 04-27-2007, 12:17 AM

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Alright...I apologize for jumping all over you. I'm just tired of hearing that Brandon Lloyd is not good and we need a WR. We don't. We just need our QB to produce. Something we haven't really seen since Brad Johnson.

Yeah, what you said! I am tired of a underachieving offense due to lack of solid QB play.

jsarno · 04-27-2007, 12:29 AM

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Yeah, what you said! I am tired of a underachieving offense due to lack of solid QB play.

Hopefully that will change this year.
At least if we're going to make a dumb pick somewhere, make it with a solid QB instead of some project. Like Brady Quinn.

KLHJ2 · 04-27-2007, 12:34 AM

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Hopefully that will change this year.
At least if we're going to make a dumb pick somewhere, make it with a solid QB instead of some project. Like Brady Quinn.

I couldn't agree more. If he is still there, don't pass him up. My thinking is if we get him, then no one else can hurt us with him.

budw38 · 04-27-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Alright...I apologize for jumping all over you. I'm just tired of hearing that Brandon Lloyd is not good and we need a WR. We don't. We just need our QB to produce. Something we haven't really seen since Brad Johnson.

JSarno , np . I was only pointing out that a # of rookies can start , and I think Gibbs made an inaccurate statement in regards to the draft . Lets face it , most teams have two or three players that can be beaten out by a talented rookie . Not that is a big deal , but I never said B Loyd should be replaced .

jsarno · 04-27-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

JSarno , np . I was only pointing out that a # of rookies can start , and I think Gibbs made an inaccurate statement in regards to the draft . Lets face it , most teams have two or three players that can be beaten out by a talented rookie . Not that is a big deal , but I never said B Loyd should be replaced .

For what it's worth, I agree with you. There are always a bunch of rookies that can start right away.

04-26-2007, 05:33 PM	#1
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: What are we going to do at DE? If coach really thinks that there are no rookies that can start on this team he is nuts !!! 5 or six of the DE's could get more sacks in two games than Danials & wynn ever could . At least 5 WR's are better than Loyd , and I find it hard to believe that not 1 DB could crack our starting lineup . Willis and Puslunski could probably start and be an upgrade . I guess if SF offers us a first rd pick for Danials or Salave we will turn it down because Anderson / Carriker could not make the team < or have to ride the pine > .

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