Santana vs. Randy

Pocket$ $traight · 05-03-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

I need football as well, but some of the topics we get stuck on are freakin retarded.

Including lumping a guy who isn't half as good as Gary Clark with a guaranteed Hall of Famer.

KLHJ2 · 05-03-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Including lumping a guy who isn't half as good as Gary Clark with a guaranteed Hall of Famer.

My daddy can whoop your daddys ass.

gabe1984 · 05-03-2007, 10:04 AM

I can say that Santana Moss is pure number one receiver very easily. Santana Moss is a pure number one receiver. This guy was misused by the Jets, he was like the third string receiver there, then he comes to DC and given the chance to be number one, he tore it up. I mean after watching the '05 season, how can you say he's not a pure number one receiver? The other seasons he hasnt been given the chance, or he was hurt.

skinsfan69 · 05-03-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe1984

I can say that Santana Moss is pure number one receiver very easily. Santana Moss is a pure number one receiver. This guy was misused by the Jets, he was like the third string receiver there, then he comes to DC and given the chance to be number one, he tore it up. I mean after watching the '05 season, how can you say he's not a pure number one receiver? The other seasons he hasnt been given the chance, or he was hurt.

Well, I want to see the 05 Moss in 07. But until then I stand by my opinion.

GTripp0012 · 05-03-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well, I want to see the 05 Moss in 07. But until then I stand by my opinion.

Don't forget that Santana's last two years in NY were really good also. He didn't just come out of nowhere in 2005, he simply got more oppertunities.

He was good last year in the limited oppertunites he got, dogged by a hammy and whatnot.

skinsfan69 · 05-03-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Don't forget that Santana's last two years in NY were really good also. He didn't just come out of nowhere in 2005, he simply got more oppertunities.

He was good last year in the limited oppertunites he got, dogged by a hammy and whatnot.

Exactly. He is really good. That is what I said. Last year was a mess. He was way out of sync with JC. They had no timimg at all. And Brunell struggled ( I know u think he didn't ) so he took the brunt of that. But I think he should bounce back with a better down the field passer. Don't you? One of Santana's strength's is adjusting well to the long ball while it's in the air. One thing is that the opposing defensive coordinators really caught on to that little screen play that worked so well in 05 and they were waiting for it. So I would like to see more mid range/deep passes to Santana this year instead of throwing it 5 yards and hoping he can break 50 tackles.

MTK · 05-03-2007, 10:09 AM

What makes a guy a true #1? The # of 1000 yard seasons?

I think in 2005 Moss proved that he is capable of being the man. Last year it was really tough to judge him given his injuries and the QB situation. I think he'll be primed for a nice bounce back season in '07.

Monkeydad · 05-03-2007, 04:16 PM

12thMan · 10-18-2007, 02:07 PM

Wow, I think we all ate a little crow in hindsight.

skinsfan69 · 10-18-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Wow, I think we all ate a little crow in hindsight.

What happens is people tend to judge things with the burgundy and gold glasses on around here. I mean this whole thread was just silly. R. Moss has over 100 TD's!!!!! R. Moss is a better WR period. Always has been and always will be.

12thMan · 10-18-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What happens is people tend to judge things with the burgundy and gold glasses on around here. I mean this whole thread was just silly. R. Moss has over 100 TD's!!!!! R. Moss is a better WR period. Always has been and always will be.

Just to be fair, I'm sure people were judging results soley on the previous three seasons, not the entire body of work.

No one here is disputing whether or not Santana has had a better career than Randy.

Twilbert07 · 10-18-2007, 02:41 PM

I sure would like to have Randy this year.

skinsfan69 · 10-18-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Just to be fair, I'm sure people were judging results soley on the previous three seasons, not the entire body of work.

No one here is disputing whether or not Santana has had a better career than Randy.

I see your point but Oak had the worst QB situation in the NFL. I was not going to judge R. Moss with Walter and Brooks throwing him the ball behind a terrible o-line. Plus they had some guy who was running a bed and breakfast who hadn't coached since 91 running the offense. No WR would have done well on that team.

R. Moss is not a leader. I don't think he does well in a situation where he has to carry the team like he was asked to do in Oak. But when he has solid vets and supporting cast around him he is going to thrive and right now he is in a perfect situation.

MTK · 10-18-2007, 02:23 PM

Randy has redeemed himself no doubt, while Santana is in a serious funk.

When you compare their careers there's no doubt who the better receiver is, but I think at the time this thread was started it was looking like Randy's career was winding down and the intent of the thread was to compare them at that time, no career-wise.

FRPLG · 10-18-2007, 02:34 PM

Talent wise it isn't even close but motivation has always been Randy's issue. I don't hink Santana has issues with motivation.

05-03-2007, 10:04 AM	#3
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: Santana vs. Randy I can say that Santana Moss is pure number one receiver very easily. Santana Moss is a pure number one receiver. This guy was misused by the Jets, he was like the third string receiver there, then he comes to DC and given the chance to be number one, he tore it up. I mean after watching the '05 season, how can you say he's not a pure number one receiver? The other seasons he hasnt been given the chance, or he was hurt. __________________ In the Land of the Blind the man with one eye is king, but today in the Land of the Skunks, THE MAN WITH HALF A NOSE IS KING!!!!!

05-03-2007, 10:09 AM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Santana vs. Randy What makes a guy a true #1? The # of 1000 yard seasons? I think in 2005 Moss proved that he is capable of being the man. Last year it was really tough to judge him given his injuries and the QB situation. I think he'll be primed for a nice bounce back season in '07. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-03-2007, 04:16 PM	#8
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Santana vs. Randy

10-18-2007, 02:07 PM	#9
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Santana vs. Randy Wow, I think we all ate a little crow in hindsight.

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Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: Santana vs. Randy I sure would like to have Randy this year. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

10-18-2007, 02:23 PM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Santana vs. Randy Randy has redeemed himself no doubt, while Santana is in a serious funk. When you compare their careers there's no doubt who the better receiver is, but I think at the time this thread was started it was looking like Randy's career was winding down and the intent of the thread was to compare them at that time, no career-wise. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-18-2007, 02:34 PM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Santana vs. Randy Talent wise it isn't even close but motivation has always been Randy's issue. I don't hink Santana has issues with motivation.

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