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Old 05-04-2007, 04:38 PM   #1
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Re: Brady's Bedtime Buddies

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But do you not realize that winning 3 sbs and reeling off 21-22 straight wins in a row are A-list examples of exactly how lucky this team has been over the years.

They are good. They were the best football team in the league in 2003 and 2004 which is very tough to do. But they were lucky to play 21 games without running into a bad matchup at least once.

Great luck combined with great skill is a deadly combination.
A bad matchup??? Please define a bad matchup. Is that a team that is better, matches up well against you, I dont think I've ever heard of a bad matchup except when it refers to a really good team (which was N.E.) during their streak) playing a really bad team. So actually I guess they ran into alot of bad matchups. Maybe you meant a good matchup because that would refer to two very good teams playing against each other. Which i'm pretty sure happened within a 21 game streak. I'm not sure why people can't give credit where credit is deserved. Luck is not a one sided thing, balls dont always bounce the same way and oppurtunities are presented to both teams during a game. The better team just knows how to capitalize. And trust me I hate the Patriots just like almost everyone else, I hope Tom Brady gets herpes, from Mike Vick, but In the end I have a feeling that alot of our hatred is the result of envy.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:06 PM   #2
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A bad matchup??? Please define a bad matchup. Is that a team that is better, matches up well against you, I dont think I've ever heard of a bad matchup except when it refers to a really good team (which was N.E.) during their streak) playing a really bad team. So actually I guess they ran into alot of bad matchups. Maybe you meant a good matchup because that would refer to two very good teams playing against each other. Which i'm pretty sure happened within a 21 game streak. I'm not sure why people can't give credit where credit is deserved. Luck is not a one sided thing, balls dont always bounce the same way and oppurtunities are presented to both teams during a game. The better team just knows how to capitalize. And trust me I hate the Patriots just like almost everyone else, I hope Tom Brady gets herpes, from Mike Vick, but In the end I have a feeling that alot of our hatred is the result of envy.
Let me add "in theory" to the start of your bolded sentence.

22 straight games happened where the Patriots avoided something critically unlucky happening to them. Is it possible to be the most talented team out on the field every time you take it? Of course. But to win 22 in a row with nothing catastrophic happening in crunch time is the true definition of good fortune.

Do you honestly think we weren't a better team than the Titans or Vikings last year? Do you think that we were a better team than the Saints or Panthers?

Look, all those games were close, but ultimately decided by a select few number of event played out in the last few minutes of the game. In our case 2 went against us, 2 went for us. It evened out somewhat.

Well, New England played 22 straight games without anybody coming through in the clutch against them, which is absolutely astounding. Number one, its a tribute to them for dominating or being in every game, I'm not taking that away from them. But more importantly, when the close games in that 22 game streak came down to the wire, the ball always bounced NEs way.

When that streak ended, they were completely outplayed and blown out by Pittsburgh. No question who the better team was on the field that day.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #3
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Let me add "in theory" to the start of your bolded sentence.

22 straight games happened where the Patriots avoided something critically unlucky happening to them. Is it possible to be the most talented team out on the field every time you take it? Of course. But to win 22 in a row with nothing catastrophic happening in crunch time is the true definition of good fortune.

Do you honestly think we weren't a better team than the Titans or Vikings last year? Do you think that we were a better team than the Saints or Panthers?

Look, all those games were close, but ultimately decided by a select few number of event played out in the last few minutes of the game. In our case 2 went against us, 2 went for us. It evened out somewhat.

Well, New England played 22 straight games without anybody coming through in the clutch against them, which is absolutely astounding. Number one, its a tribute to them for dominating or being in every game, I'm not taking that away from them. But more importantly, when the close games in that 22 game streak came down to the wire, the ball always bounced NEs way.

When that streak ended, they were completely outplayed and blown out by Pittsburgh. No question who the better team was on the field that day.
Gtripp.... I think sometimes you try and over analyze everything. I mean your making up all these silly comments about how nobody came up in the clutch, the ball always bounces NE's way, favorable match-ups and what not. All that mumbo-jumbo sounds ridicules. If Mark Brunell had Qbed a streak like that and it was the Redskins you would be doing back-flips like the rest of us. Just give credit where credit is due. Jeez!

If anyone rolls off 21 in a row and wins 3 SB's in 4 years they are simply a great great football team. Hands down. When the streak ended Pitt. was the better team that day. No question about that. But what happended later that year? NE came back into Pitt. and won on the road in the playoffs. No luck involved that day if I recalled. NE confused the living hell out of Ben R. and they went on to win the SB.
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