Anthony Montgomery

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

true, would be nice if Montgomery beat griff out to start w/griff coming in on passing downs. I read that Montgomery runs a 5.24 40, which sounds like he's not likely to be a pass rusher as much as a run stuffer. 40 times only count for so much though, he might have a great burst now that he's toning up. It's a position where quickness is more important than speed anyway.

40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.

If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.

If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.

right, quickness as I mentioned & strength is an assumed must have in any lineman. I don't put TOO much emphasis on 40 times, but I think if you look at the game's best pass rushers, dt, de or lb's, I bet that on avg. they have faster 40 times.
Doesn't matter to me though, I think if he contributes as a run stuffer & gets some pt, that's a bonus. If he's an every down dt, that's a draft steal. I hope that his offseason has been like Loyd's, & his training will show on game days. Expect to see a lot of snaps in preseason for sure.

[70Chip]

It's always been my position that DE was a greater need than DT. We had this discussion ad nauseum before the draft. With Griffin, Golston, Montgomery and Salavea, we should get a decent years worth of play. If they are all healthy, it would be a bonus.

By contrast, we will be in trouble at DE if Carter doesn't continue his late season play from last year. Everybody else is average and old. I still think they should at least think about playing Wynn on first down. Of course, with an upgrade out outside LB over Holdman, Carter may be adequate against the run.

Also, they intend, I think to funnel the offensive pressure away from the middle (LBers) to the outside (CBs) by playing more Cover 1 with Landry up near the line of scrimmage. This may allow Carter's athleticism to display itself as he will not have to be as disciplined in his approach. He will have an extra defender on early downs.

[freddyg12]

all good points about AM. Like Matty said, nobody's voting him to the pro bowl already. If this story is an accurate depiction of his commitment then maybe we can at least count on him to get some snaps in the rotation. GW likes to sub based on what 'package' it is, so it seems there is ample opportunity for the guy to get some time even if he's not a starter.

I think the thing to get excited about in this story is that for a change, one of our late draft picks may be shaping up & becoming a decent, if not good, pro. It was good news last year that Golston & Montgomery made the roster & got some time. If both improve, we've got to be happy w/that. I would love to see these guys become Butz/Daryl Grant, those two guys anchored the d-line for years. While unspectacular, they were solid.