The Never Ending Thread

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

But if He is, then why could what the secret is referring to as "the universe" be God? In fact there is a guy in the video that refers to the universe as God. It really makes a lot of sense.



God only uses your hands. You can reject His plans, or go with it.
I think it's irresponsible to think you don't have any control over your life.
You last comment puzzles me though...if you reap what you sow, then you have control over your life. Your actions have consequences.
Anywho, I believe God is everywhere and is always listening to us, so why not tell him what you want? Oddly enough, when I pray in my head, things don't ever, and I mean ever work out. But when I pray outloud I see results. That just may be a coincidence, but I find that the secret taps on that thought.

I just don't buy into the whole law of attraction idea. I rely on God to guide me when making big decisions in my life. I seek Him for answers. He is the author and finisher of my faith, not "the universe". As far as who has the control over my life, He does. I don't see God as someone who's just sitting around waiting to fulfill every whim and wish that pops into my head.

Here's a question. When you want something really bad and you don't receive it, who's fault is it that your request wasn't granted? Was it because you didn't put out enough positive vibes or is it because God didn't feel it was in your best interest to answer that particular prayer at that time? Meditating on what you want strongly enough and expecting to get it is like saying that you can will God into giving you whatever you want. The first question you always have to ask is "what does God want for my life." Seek ye first His kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. I have no problem asking God for things. He says we have not, because we ask not. That still doesn't mean He will give me everything I ask for.

As far as the reaping what you sow goes, it still goes back to God and His influence in my life. If someone mistreats me, what do I draw upon to determine what my response should be? His word tells me what my response should be. Finances? Relationships? Follow His word. If I choose to go against that then I run the risk of not reaping the benefits I would have received if I had chosen His will in the first place.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I just don't buy into the whole law of attraction idea. I rely on God to guide me when making big decisions in my life. I seek Him for answers. He is the author and finisher of my faith, not "the universe". As far as who has the control over my life, He does. I don't see God as someone who's just sitting around waiting to fulfill every whim and wish that pops into my head.

Here's a question. When you want something really bad and you don't receive it, who's fault is it that your request wasn't granted? Was it because you didn't put out enough positive vibes or is it because God didn't feel it was in your best interest to answer that particular prayer at that time? Meditating on what you want strongly enough and expecting to get it is like saying that you can will God into giving you whatever you want. The first question you always have to ask is "what does God want for my life." Seek ye first His kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. I have no problem asking God for things. He says we have not, because we ask not. That still doesn't mean He will give me everything I ask for.

As far as the reaping what you sow goes, it still goes back to God and His influence in my life. If someone mistreats me, what do I draw upon to determine what my response should be? His word tells me what my response should be. Finances? Relationships? Follow His word. If I choose to go against that then I run the risk of not reaping the benefits I would have received if I had chosen His will in the first place.

Again, why can't you see that it could be God?
No one is saying He will give you whatever you want....or that you will get whatever you want with "the secret". You can ask for some pretty crazy things...like I want to have sex with Jessica Beil and Jessica Alba at the same time, and I want my wife to give me full blessing to do it...do you think that will happen? Hell no.
I have learned that there are a million things in this world that you can not explain and that make no sense. You use 3-7% of your brain capacity, so what is the other 93-97% doing? There are things going on beyond my comprehension, and I'd be selling myself short if I didn't beleive that God is capable of ALL things.
About "willing" God to do something. When you pray you are asking for Him for things, He will choose whether you get those or not. If you think positively (no meditation involved by the way) and ask for it, you are still doing the same thing...I actually see this as very similar to prayer, it's just outwardly verbal.