BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing

[BDBohnzie]

That rumor (Gibbs to Toyota) has been floating around for a while. Since it was stated rumor, it should be taken as so...IMO, no quote needed.

Yeley hasn't done much, so it'll be interesting to see how Busch, Hamlin and Stewart "play" together.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

That rumor (Gibbs to Toyota) has been floating around for a while. Since it was stated rumor, it should be taken as so...IMO, no quote needed.

I agree a "rumor" is just that a "rumor" take them for what they are worth. If it was fact than by all means please post a link or quote your source.

And I would think that if someone works for the worlds leader in sport news (a.k.a. ESPN) and in motosports, than I would think that would be good enough for most. But I guess you can please everyone...

Oh, and SS keep the "rumors" coming and I will decide what I want to believe or not...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree a "rumor" is just that a "rumor" take them for what they are worth. If it was fact than by all means please post a link or quote your source.

And I would think that if someone works for the worlds leader in sport news (a.k.a. ESPN) and in motosports, than I would think that would be good enough for most. But I guess you can please everyone...

Oh, and SS keep the "rumors" coming and I will decide what I want to believe or not...

Well I almost never post rumors just to post rumors, I'd flood the board if I did that. Any "rumor" I post is something that I can definitely confirm from multiple sources (regardless of whether I can "link" to those sources).

Such as letting you all know two weeks before it was reported that Betts was about to re-sign or that Docker was seeking around a $16 million signing bonus. Or the Casey Bramlet news, which I posted just before it was made official because I knew it was a done deal. In retrospect, I could have just waited a bit for a press release to come out. But I had work to do, and figured you guys would like to hear that news.

But I digress, you'll notice that when I don't have a link yet I'll usually start the thread title with "Report" and, on the rare occassion, I'm just posting a rumor then I'll say "there's a rumor"

I didn't think that one simple post by me would cause such an uproar though.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I almost never post rumors just to post rumors, I'd flood the board if I did that. Any "rumor" I post is something that I can definitely confirm from multiple sources (regardless of whether I can "link" to those sources).

Such as letting you all know two weeks before it was reported that Betts was about to re-sign or that Docker was seeking around a $16 million signing bonus. Or the Casey Bramlet news, which I posted just before it was made official because I knew it was a done deal. In retrospect, I could have just waited a bit for a press release to come out. But I had work to do, and figured you guys would like to hear that news.

But I digress, you'll notice that when I don't have a link yet I'll usually start the thread title with "Report" and, on the rare occassion, I'm just posting a rumor then I'll say "there's a rumor"

I didn't think that one simple post by me would cause such an uproar though.

Keep posting the rumors, I love to hear them personally.
Everything starts as a rumor, then some turn into reality. When the KG trade first came out, it was rumored...then went away, then sure enough, it happened. I love to hear about the rumors, keep it up.

[hooskins]

Yeah keep posting rumors. I'm sorry SBF, but personally I think you just dont really enjoy the idea of Gibbs going to Toyota, and if it was any other rumor you really wouldn't care. You don't need a quote for a rumor. A rumor is a rumor and just because it upsets you personally does not mean we have to start this whole you should quote stuff bs. You could simply chose to ignore it.


I have also heard on some sites about this Toyota move, it isn't something outta the blue. When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor. I hope you dont think I am calling you out SBF, I respect your knowledge and interest in NASCAR, and I guess I just wouldn't expect you to flip for something just because it offended you.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor.

And who was the ONLY person that KNEW he wasn't going to JGR, but knew he was going to sign with Hendricks...OH, that would be me.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah keep posting rumors. I'm sorry SBF, but personally I think you just dont really enjoy the idea of Gibbs going to Toyota, and if it was any other rumor you really wouldn't care. You don't need a quote for a rumor. A rumor is a rumor and just because it upsets you personally does not mean we have to start this whole you should quote stuff bs. You could simply chose to ignore it.


I have also heard on some sites about this Toyota move, it isn't something outta the blue. When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor. I hope you dont think I am calling you out SBF, I respect your knowledge and interest in NASCAR, and I guess I just wouldn't expect you to flip for something just because it offended you.

Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?

Considering Toyota seems to be the crap shoot of NASCAR, I would have to say that JGR would go downhill by making such a decision.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Considering Toyota seems to be the crap shoot of NASCAR, I would have to say that JGR would go downhill by making such a decision.

I'm not saying they'd win it all right away but I think Toyota will see more success next year after a year in the Cup series. Plus, keep in mind they have two start-up operations Red Bull and MWR running Toyotas. An established team like JGR-particularly with the caliber of drivers on that team-would certainly help.

[drew54]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?

While this would be cool, Also remember that if Denny Hamlin or Kyle would win, he could say three drivers as well.

[hooskins]

Ok well I am not a NASCAR expert but is the anti-Toyota feeling more due to the fact it is a foreign car company or because it is just not successful in NASCAR?

I seem to get the whole feeling that many people dont like Toyota because it isnt American.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Ok well I am not a NASCAR expert but is the anti-Toyota feeling more due to the fact it is a foreign car company or because it is just not successful in NASCAR?

I seem to get the whole feeling that many people dont like Toyota because it isnt American.

I can't speak for everyone here...but I personally don't care.
I don't think there really is an "american" car anymore. All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.
I just say that cause Toyota has not shown to have a good car in NASCAR, just like Dodge has fallen from having great cars to having crap cars now. (comparitively speaking to Chevy and Ford)

[Summo]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I can't speak for everyone here...but I personally don't care.
I don't think there really is an "american" car anymore. All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.
I just say that cause Toyota has not shown to have a good car in NASCAR, just like Dodge has fallen from having great cars to having crap cars now. (comparitively speaking to Chevy and Ford)

Toyota's are not made here, they are "Assembled" here. The parts are shipped in boxes and American workers assemble the cars. By doing this Toyota pays lower tariffs compared to shipping a whole car already put together.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Summo

Toyota's are not made here, they are "Assembled" here. The parts are shipped in boxes and American workers assemble the cars. By doing this Toyota pays lower tariffs compared to shipping a whole car already put together.

You know what I meant.
Fact is, a lot of actual parts are made in Taiwan etc. But thanks for showing up for yet again, one brief moment in time to correct someone.

[Skins fan 44]

Originally Posted by Summo

Toyota's are not made here, they are "Assembled" here. The parts are shipped in boxes and American workers assemble the cars. By doing this Toyota pays lower tariffs compared to shipping a whole car already put together.

And Ford and Chevy parts are all made in the USA? Do you know what the most American made vehicle is? Honda and I am not for sure which car, but I heard that a couple of years ago.