KENDALL to the Redskins (confirmed)

[SmootSmack]

Here's J. Clayton's take:


The Pete Kendall trade was a fast one, put together by the Redskins and the Jets in less than 24 hours. The Jets will receive a fifth-round pick in 2008 if Kendall plays 80 percent of the snaps this year; the pick would be a fourth-rounder in '09 if he plays more. Over the past three years, Kendall has played at least 90 percent of the snaps in each of those seasons. Acquiring Kendall resolves several things along the offensive line. First, it stops the conversion of Todd Wade from tackle to guard. Wade will now be the backup tackle. Second, it gives the Redskins some beef on the interior of their offensive line. The Redskins' schedule dictates that the team can't be too small in its interior blocking.

Kendall gets his money: The loser in the Kendall trade was the Miami Dolphins. They had been hoping Kendall, who didn't want to stay in New York because the Jets wouldn't give him a $1 million raise, would be cut. That wasn't going to happen. Had there been no trade offer, the Jets would have kept Kendall even if he were unhappy. Once the Redskins got involved, things started moving pretty quickly. The trade gives the Jets eight draft choices in 2008. Kendall was also a winner in the trade. Though his preference would have been to stay in New York if he got paid, Kendall proved his point. He wanted to get a raise from $1.7 million to $2.7 million, and teams were willing to accommodate him. Aside from the Redskins and Dolphins, the Chiefs also had interest. Kendall will now make $2.7 million this season and $2.3 million in 2008.

[70Chip]

Everyone should check out the Kendall interview at Redskins.com. He's wicked smaht. I thought Godfrey seemed like a high I.Q. guy as well, so maybe Gibbs is living up to his promise of bringing in smart, tough players.

[offiss]

The guy is nothing special, but he seems that way compared to what we have, which speaks volumes in itself, the fact that we didn't address the left guard position in this draft shows the lack of ability by the personel dept. to realize what we need. One of the reasons we didn't address it is because of miss use of picks from the day Gibbs returned, we will give up a fortune for skill players and forget what makes them great, and that is the offensive line. Kendall is not a bad pickup considering our need at the position, he's an average at best guard, who is 34 years old, but we should have built our line way past the likes of Kendall by now.

[skinsttw]

Check out this article on Kendall in the NY Post:

FOR PETE'S SAKE, THIS WAS A REAL DUMB DEAL | By MARK CANNIZZARO | New York Jets

[724Skinsfan]

November 4th should be interesting to watch as the announcers mention the Kendall trade 724 times each quarter. Throw in half that for the number of times they mention Fabini and Thomas also were on the Jets.

[Drift Reality]

The more I think about it, the more I think it a pretty decent deal. I like the fact that Wade can go back to providing depth at tackle, and I like the fact that it means Heyer wouldn't really see the field.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by offiss

The guy is nothing special, but he seems that way compared to what we have, which speaks volumes in itself, the fact that we didn't address the left guard position in this draft shows the lack of ability by the personel dept. to realize what we need. One of the reasons we didn't address it is because of miss use of picks from the day Gibbs returned, we will give up a fortune for skill players and forget what makes them great, and that is the offensive line. Kendall is not a bad pickup considering our need at the position, he's an average at best guard, who is 34 years old, but we should have built our line way past the likes of Kendall by now.

Kendall is not a potential HOF candadite, that is for sure. But to get the quality lineman that you have in Kendall at this time of year is a very good bargin.

When most of the new additions to teams in August are camp fodder from other teams, the Redskins have added a starter and depth for a 4th or 5th rounder. That is pretty good if you ask me.

This years draft was not very deep in line talent, but the '08 draft is projected to be very deep in O-line talent. A lineman taken in the 4th or 5th round of '08 could potentially have been a second or third rounder in '07.

This was a sound move by the front office. Nothing to jump up and down and call in sick for, but also nothing to hang your head about either. Just a good solid move.

[irish]

Its too bad the skins didnt have players they drafted themselves that could step in and do the job but instead were forced to give pro bowl caliber compensation for a decent journeyman player.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Its too bad the skins didnt have players they drafted themselves that could step in and do the job but instead were forced to give pro bowl caliber compensation for a decent journeyman player.

Pro Bowl caliber compensation??

Honestly, where do people get this crap? So let me get this straight, because Steve McNair and Trent Green were dealt for 5th round picks, suddenly the going rate for a pro-bowl player in this league is a 5th round pick?

Age has more to do with it than anything. Steve McNair and Trent Green are AT BEST average QBs in this league right now, with one foot out the door towards retirement. Pete Kendall is an average guard in this league, with one foot out the door towards retirement. They're worth the same in terms of draft picks because Kendall takes up a lot less cap space than McNair and Green do.

Yeah I'd rather have a solid LG in camp back in July, but we didn't. This is making the best of a tough situation.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's J. Clayton's take:


The Pete Kendall trade was a fast one, put together by the Redskins and the Jets in less than 24 hours. The Jets will receive a fifth-round pick in 2008 if Kendall plays 80 percent of the snaps this year; the pick would be a fourth-rounder in '09 if he plays more. Over the past three years, Kendall has played at least 90 percent of the snaps in each of those seasons. Acquiring Kendall resolves several things along the offensive line. First, it stops the conversion of Todd Wade from tackle to guard. Wade will now be the backup tackle. Second, it gives the Redskins some beef on the interior of their offensive line. The Redskins' schedule dictates that the team can't be too small in its interior blocking.

Kendall gets his money: The loser in the Kendall trade was the Miami Dolphins. They had been hoping Kendall, who didn't want to stay in New York because the Jets wouldn't give him a $1 million raise, would be cut. That wasn't going to happen. Had there been no trade offer, the Jets would have kept Kendall even if he were unhappy. Once the Redskins got involved, things started moving pretty quickly. The trade gives the Jets eight draft choices in 2008. Kendall was also a winner in the trade. Though his preference would have been to stay in New York if he got paid, Kendall proved his point. He wanted to get a raise from $1.7 million to $2.7 million, and teams were willing to accommodate him. Aside from the Redskins and Dolphins, the Chiefs also had interest. Kendall will now make $2.7 million this season and $2.3 million in 2008.

I mean, at least the Skins were not bidding against themselves this time (a la the Mark Brunell trade a few years back). Kendall was not going to be released, at least two other teams had interest, he was the best thing available, and he upgrades the line at a need position. JLC et al. can gripe that they should not have let the situation at LG deteriorate to this point, but it did and the FO worked to fix it. Sure, we'd all like to have a full compliment of draft picks, but I'd rather give up a 4th or 5th round pick if that means keeping Jason Campbell upright during the season. The comparison to the McNair and Green trades does not hold anyway as those guys were going to get cut regardless. If the Skins wanted this deal to go down they need to offer up what they did. It's not like the gave up a first day pick and not having a 4th round pick in 2009 isn't so bad as long as they can manage to hang on to their other six choices. Good move, and the only one they could really make.

[12thMan]

Let's keep in mind guys there is still the possibitily of us getting the pick back in exchange for either Collins or Brunell. So hold on to your hats ladies and gents, and it aint over till the phat lady sings!

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'm with you on the point of not getting ourselves into this position in the first place. How many 2nd and 3rd round picks have we pissed away over the past few years which could have helped with the transition of replacing guys like Dockery or Jon Jansen?

Still, we're usually dumping 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks for guys like this. I'm not too bummed out about giving up a 5th rounder here. I can live with that sort of trend.

Yeah, I think people that are shaking their head about this manuever aren't doing so based on the trade itself, but rather how we got to this point. I know lots of people on here don't want to look back in time, and want to live in the moment. The problem with that is, if the Skins don't learn from their history, they are destined to repeat it. The Skins have a horrible history of pissing away draft picks, not sigining their own homegrown talent, and paying too much for free agents. If the front office drafts some lineman OR signs Dockery early on to an extension rather than waiting to the last minute to enter the bidding, then we wouldn't be put into a position where whe HAVE to make a move to acquire a LG. The same thing is happening to Cooley, they haven't gotten a deal done, so Cooley could very well hit the open market. If that happens, Cooley is gone. Then we're talking about trading a 4th or a 3rd for a TE next year.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Let's keep in mind guys there is still the possibitily of us getting the pick back in exchange for either Collins or Brunell. So hold on to your hats ladies and gents, and it aint over till the phat lady sings!

Err...I have serious doubts whether someone is actually going to give us anything higher than a 6th for Brunell and no one is going to give us squat for Collins.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Pro Bowl caliber compensation??

Honestly, where do people get this crap? So let me get this straight, because Steve McNair and Trent Green were dealt for 5th round picks, suddenly the going rate for a pro-bowl player in this league is a 5th round pick?

Age has more to do with it than anything. Steve McNair and Trent Green are AT BEST average QBs in this league right now, with one foot out the door towards retirement. Pete Kendall is an average guard in this league, with one foot out the door towards retirement. They're worth the same in terms of draft picks because Kendall takes up a lot less cap space than McNair and Green do.

Yeah I'd rather have a solid LG in camp back in July, but we didn't. This is making the best of a tough situation.

I got it from this mornings Post. If he plays 80% of the plays it becomes a 4th round pick and I am sure he will play 80%.

I agree this is making the best of a bad situation but the skins should not be in this situation. This is what happens when you give away draft picks over time. Unfortunately the Skins just cant learn their lesson and now they appear caught in a cycle of not having players (they drafted) in place when needed so they have to resort to signing old players and giving away the future in the form of draft picks.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Pro Bowl caliber compensation??

Honestly, where do people get this crap? So let me get this straight, because Steve McNair and Trent Green were dealt for 5th round picks, suddenly the going rate for a pro-bowl player in this league is a 5th round pick?

Age has more to do with it than anything. Steve McNair and Trent Green are AT BEST average QBs in this league right now, with one foot out the door towards retirement. Pete Kendall is an average guard in this league, with one foot out the door towards retirement. They're worth the same in terms of draft picks because Kendall takes up a lot less cap space than McNair and Green do.

Yeah I'd rather have a solid LG in camp back in July, but we didn't. This is making the best of a tough situation.

They are not worth the same in terms of draft picks. A starting QB even of "average" ability, goes for more than a starting LG of average ability. The Skins just got caught by the short and curlys and HAD to pay this much.