Rule Clarification:

[Skins1573]

Offiss, I disagree with your comment on Gardner. I think if you get him the ball early in the game and often things will happen. I think durning the giants game he wasn't thrown too until the 2nd quater. I don't here you saying anything about coles and the drops he had (not includeing the 1 R. Williams hit him hard, which i think was helmet to helmet) Your opinion, which is cool, and I just see diffrent on this one. Also I think we need to get J.Thrash in the game, especially on returns. I think morton isn't helping us in anyway, and I still think Thrash has what it takes and he is very stable on performing

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Skins1573

Offiss, I disagree with your comment on Gardner. I think if you get him the ball early in the game and often things will happen. I think durning the giants game he wasn't thrown too until the 2nd quater. I don't here you saying anything about coles and the drops he had (not includeing the 1 R. Williams hit him hard, which i think was helmet to helmet) Your opinion, which is cool, and I just see diffrent on this one. Also I think we need to get J.Thrash in the game, especially on returns. I think morton isn't helping us in anyway, and I still think Thrash has what it takes and he is very stable on performing

As I said, I missed the first half, so I didn't see any of coles drop's, but the fact is, one has nothing to do with the other, how many ball's did Coles drop last year? I can't remember many, and I don't remember him killing us with stupid penalties, time and again either, if you wan't to crown Gardner all pro after 1 game, go ahead, I know better, Gardner has remained in the starting lineup for 1 reason, he has tremendous potential, but petential as parcell's say's, mean's you ain't done nothing yet, rest assured I route for Gardner to reach the potential we all know he posesses, but until he does it on a consistant basis, where we know we can rely on him to make the big play, as well as the little play, I am not changing my stance, the little girl with the curl has burned us to many times.

[SmootSmack]

I think Michaels and Madden were saying yesterday that the helmet to helmet hit was valid because by then Gardner was a runner, not a receiver so helmet to helmet is allowed. First I'd heard of that rule

[Hogskin]

I could be wrong, but I sure thought helmet-to-helmet penalties only applied to hits on the QB. They have a LOT of special rules for the QB, because they see him as a sitting duck.