F...Ignorant, Panic-Stricken "Fans"

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I also look at it like this (now that I am calmed down), if before the season started, someone said we would be 2-1 at the bye week, we'd all take it. Every last one of us. We are where we should be, and we're in good shape.

So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/playb...an-help-3.html

7. Step Away From The Computer. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. After a loss everyone wants to jump on the site, which is great but often times (most times) emotions overrule coherence and cause the most tension on this site. The site will still be here tomorrow, take a day to regroup then come back and post sensibly.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/playb...an-help-3.html

7. Step Away From The Computer. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. After a loss everyone wants to jump on the site, which is great but often times (most times) emotions overrule coherence and cause the most tension on this site. The site will still be here tomorrow, take a day to regroup then come back and post sensibly.

Did I say anything that I regret...NOPE. I still say Gibbs and company were conservative, sure I said it with more piss and vinigar, but it remains true.
Not once did I say "fire Gibbs", or "this team sucks", or the "season is over". You're barking up the wrong tree on this one SS. Your comment should not apply to me.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

Fine. Whatever makes you happy

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?

There are some here that indeed drink that kool aid, then push their kool aid on others. It's OK...just pointing out the irony.
Like GMan said, sometimes people find solice in the fact that there are others that feel the way they do.
So why not let others vent? Like I said, I don't like the "this team is doomed" comments as much as you do (and for the record I did not say those things like SS implied I did) but let's not get any dilusions that the knee jerk reactions are solely by those that are predicting doom. It's also from those complaining about those same people.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

There are some here that indeed drink that kool aid, then push their kool aid on others. It's OK...just pointing out the irony.
Like GMan said, sometimes people find solice in the fact that there are others that feel the way they do.
So why not let others vent? Like I said, I don't like the "this team is doomed" comments as much as you do (and for the record I did not say those things like SS implied I did) but let's not get any dilusions that the knee jerk reactions are solely by those that are predicting doom. It's also from those complaining about those same people.

Really? News to me. Care to name some names? Shoot me a PM if you want.

The problem is we don't need a bunch of different threads all about playcalling, and a bunch of threads all titled something like "what happened?".

People are free to vent but I think we just need to reel it in a bit at times and check our emotions at the door.

After a win you don't see a bunch of threads crowing about how the game was the best win ever, the playcalling ruled, or Gibbs should be re-signed to a lifetime contract. So why do we have to deal with the exact opposite?

Let's try to maintain some middle ground. Venting when taken to an extreme doesn't add much value to the site in my opinion.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Really? News to me. Care to name some names? Shoot me a PM if you want.

The problem is we don't need a bunch of different threads all about playcalling, and a bunch of threads all titled something like "what happened?".

People are free to vent but I think we just need to reel it in a bit at times and check our emotions at the door.

After a win you don't see a bunch of threads crowing about how the game was the best win ever, the playcalling ruled, or Gibbs should be re-signed to a lifetime contract. So why do we have to deal with the exact opposite?

Let's try to maintain some middle ground. Venting when taken to an extreme doesn't add much value to the site in my opinion.

I agree to an extent. We do all have a bunch of comments about how wonderful Gibbs is when we win, but I understand your point.
I will PM you.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree to an extent. We do all have a bunch of comments about how wonderful Gibbs is when we win, but I understand your point.
I will PM you.

Not even close to the extent of the negativity after a loss.

I've seen it year after year here. After a win everyone is generally happy and in a good mood. There are some butt-kissing posts, but NOTHING compares to what happens after a loss.

When the Skins lose, the board sees almost double the amount of traffic then it does after a win. The number of new threads and posts literally explodes. People that haven't posted in days or even weeks all of a sudden are posting like crazy.

Again, nobody here is trying to control opinions or make anyone conform. We just want to make the forums as enjoyable as possible for everyone, and keep the conversations filled with intelligent debates vs. emotional venting.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

Wow..Smoot/Gman are going to get into it a little bit today... Now while there is ALOT to what Smoot said...and trust me some of the crap that people write on this site are understandably frustrating, perticularly when someone has to sort through all that crap to remove posts and make sure the sight is going to run smoothly....but theres somthing to what is said here too I think, and I dont agree with Jsnaro on a ton of issues, but I often find this place to be very theraputic to vent after a loss, because instead of people just going "its ok, its just a game..or all the other crap I hear at home" I feel like people here understand the frustrations...so I dont nessicarily think people need to "cool down" before they post anything, because I think posting is part of cooling down and venting your frustrations....now this DOES NOT mean that people should start a million threads about every single little thing that is going on and bothering them, but I think if you want to be hot headed a little bit I think thats a good thing....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Wow..Smoot/Gman are going to get into it a little bit today... Now while there is ALOT to what Smoot said...and trust me some of the crap that people write on this site are understandably frustrating, perticularly when someone has to sort through all that crap to remove posts and make sure the sight is going to run smoothly....but theres somthing to what is said here too I think, and I dont agree with Jsnaro on a ton of issues, but I often find this place to be very theraputic to vent after a loss, because instead of people just going "its ok, its just a game..or all the other crap I hear at home" I feel like people here understand the frustrations...so I dont nessicarily think people need to "cool down" before they post anything, because I think posting is part of cooling down and venting your frustrations....now this DOES NOT mean that people should start a million threads about every single little thing that is going on and bothering them, but I think if you want to be hot headed a little bit I think thats a good thing....

Hey, I brought you into the mod world and I'll take you out!

Seriously though, see what I like is a thread like the one about "What Would You Have Done" about what plays you would have called on the goalline at the end of the game. That's a good thread that sparks legit discussion.

It seems like there have been a lot of good counterpoints to some of the "negative" opinions that have pervaded the site the past couple of days. But, those counterpoints have been largely ignored by most because they just don't want to hear it. They need their time, I suppose, to sulk.

I don't know, maybe it's because (and you can relate to this) we mods are in a bit of a separate position where we have to read every post. It's mind-numbing to go through some of these posts after each loss.

Anyway, I'll let it go. If people feel better by complaining so be it. I'll never understand that but whatever.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

After reading this, this sounded harsher than I wanted it to. I am just trying to point out that for every person that is upset about how we lost (not that we did lose, it's how we lost) there is someone upset about those people being upset.
We all need to relax. No need to jump off a bridge! Let's unite in the fact that we all love our Skins.