What is wrong with Santana Moss? (merged)

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by redskinsfanatic

you must be watching the skins in another universe if you think that.moss has had 1 bad game,portis has fumbled at least 3 times in the last 3 games.i hope they put his ass on the bench,and let betts play a lot more.but,on to the cardinals.

betts sucks....dunno what happened to him....has no vision, can't block...and again couldnt make any big plays at the end of the game. Betts fumbles more than portis as well.....

[Sean Taylor]

Moss, wait for your blocks and you have a huge play. Don't get popped like a punk and fumble like a bitch. Offense stinks besides Campbell and Cooley yesterday. Those other guys are going to watch that film and I hope we do to Arizona what we did to Detroit. Then we're on the road at New England....

[MTK]

I thought Lloyd should have made that catch. He's known for making difficult grabs look easy and we definitely needed him to do that in that spot yesterday.

The one to Cooley was also just off his fingertips, with Cooley I thought he misjudged that ball a bit and it appeared that he slowed up a bit initially when he was going after it.

Campbell's touch still needs fine tuning but I've always thought if a receiver gets his hands on it then he should make the catch most of the time. Santana letting that one off his hands go for an INT and then letting the other one get too close to him and bouncing off his grill were just pathetic.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Actually, Tom Brady missed Randy Moss by a mile on a deep pass yesterday, and Peyton Manning misses from time to time, so I'm not sure what you mean by "Elite QBs do not miss".

And Campbell absolutely should not have to put touch on a ball that hits his target in the face. That ball to Moss was a perfect throw. The toss to Lloyd was a little long, but "Touch" wouldn't have been the answer. Brett Favre put quite a bit of touch on his deep throws and got picked twice. He should've been picked three more times.

Overall I think Campbell played a good game, outside of the one yard pass on 4th and 2.

Some people act like qb's are suppose to be machines or something. Deep passes are low % to begin with. By my count JC had 6-7 dropped yesterday. He should have been around at least 25-37 yesterday. And the INT was not his fault either. It was a little high but that is a very catchable ball. JC totally outplayed Farve by a mile yesterday.

Also what was that shitty call on Thrash all about? How can you call a penalty on both players?? It should have been a no call if anything. The db stood right in Thrash' way. Horrible call. Sometimes the refs need to let the guys play a little bit. That should have been a 40 play on our part.

[MTK]

I thought the refs were bad on both sides yesterday. Some really ticky tacky calls.

[The Zimmermans]

yeah, last thing we needed to add to the sloppy play was a whole bunch of BS from the Green Bay Packer refs

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Some people act like qb's are suppose to be machines or something. Deep passes are low % to begin with. By my count JC had 6-7 dropped yesterday. He should have been around at least 25-37 yesterday. And the INT was not his fault either. It was a little high but that is a very catchable ball. JC totally outplayed Farve by a mile yesterday.

Yeah, I don't understand how people bitch when the starting quarterback can't throw a ball beyond 30 yards, then the same people bitch because the new starter throws too hard. I agree that his throws probably have a bit more velocity than the Washington receivers are used to, but that's no excuse when the ball hits your hands. And that argument holds little weight when Campbell fires rockets at Cooley and he seems to have no problem catching them.

[The Zimmermans]

cooley catches the ball because he knows he needs to in order to make a big play....the rest of the guys yesterday seemed to just be worried about dropping the ball.....if they were 100% with the success of the team...and not worrying bad about looking bad they would have made those catches without an extra thought....gotta wonder about santana TAKING HIMSELF OUT instead of coming back in and WINNING THE GAME THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY COST US

[The Zimmermans]

TO is a clown...and he drops a million passes, but he always comes back and makes up for it later in the game regardless of how many people are booing him and how many people hate him

[MTK]

I don't have a problem with Moss not being in the game at the end. He didn't deserve to be in there, I was actually hoping it was the coaches that sat him down. His F ups cost us the game.

[The Zimmermans]

yeah i wish that tooo.....i was very dissapointed when i heard he took himself out

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I thought Lloyd should have made that catch. He's known for making difficult grabs look easy and we definitely needed him to do that in that spot yesterday.

The one to Cooley was also just off his fingertips, with Cooley I thought he misjudged that ball a bit and it appeared that he slowed up a bit initially when he was going after it.

Campbell's touch still needs fine tuning but I've always thought if a receiver gets his hands on it then he should make the catch most of the time. Santana letting that one off his hands go for an INT and then letting the other one get too close to him and bouncing off his grill were just pathetic.

Thank you. I think some of you Skins fans here are so jaded by years of terrible QB's and receivers that you forget that jumping/diving catches are pretty commonplace on teams that actually have decent personnel.

I'm definitely tired of people letting Brandon off the hook for dropping that pass. He could have caught that and done nothing else this year and I think most of us would go "you know, I forgive you for sucking so bad, Brandon"...

[Campbell17]

In his first year as a Skin, Moss had 9 touchdowns, and went to the probowl, he hasnt put upthose numbers in the last 2.5 seasons. I know injury is slowing him down, but he has 0 td's this year. We cant go far if we have no desegnated #1 reciever. I think Cooley is great, but a TE can't do the work all alone.

[SFREDSKIN]

Must be a bad groin pull to the point were it slows him down and makes him an average receiver. I think that he's toughing it out instead of resting, I'm sure if he was fully healthy that he would be like his old self.

[GridIron26]

It is something that I have always wonder about.. Was it just a fluke or not? I mean, he shows lot of stuff and yet for some reason, he doesn't do it another half of times..