Canadian Healthcare from a Canadian...

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Originally Posted by dmek25

people that cannot afford health care live a life of hope. the hope that nothing happens to them or a family member. to a hard working family that just cant make it, to begrudge them something that might be able to give them a little pleasure in an otherwise sucky life is ridiculous

I think you are confusing "can not" and "will not". If a guy can afford the luxury of $40-$100 for TV per month, he can certainly afford healthcare, and more importantly, SHOULD afford healthcare.

These are basic simple decisions in life:
Do I buy beer, or do I buy my baby formula...FORMULA.
Do I go buy a movie or two, or do I buy diapers...DIAPERS.
Do I buy drugs, or do I buy food for my family...FOOD.
Do I buy DirecTV (or cable), or do I buy healthcare...HEALTHCARE.

If these people need someone like me to spell it out for them, then they really should be put on an island somewhere and disposed of.

These people are taking a gamble and using "I can't afford it" as an excuse. Sure, a lot of people have low incomes, but that means you should live a modest life. This isn't rocket science. Problem is, there are so many people that will tell them everyone else is doing better, therefore those people should help. When in actuality, people should be telling this guy to get an education or work hard to advance or something like that.
You need to ask yourself, how many truely hard workers are making only $5.75 an hour (that's fed. min. wage)? I don't know a single honest hard working person that makes that. The hard workers will move up somewhere and make more money. Even nurses aids (who wipe butt for living) START at around $8-$8.50 or more per hour. The lazy people of the world, and the complainers with their hands out make that, and have no chance of moving up the chain. It's time for everyone to stop blaming others for their mistakes, and stop expecting others to help them out. Take responsibility for their actions.
I knew a guy (I played softball with him) he went from job to job and was into drugs. He felt that he was given the shaft in his life and that people like myself were born with a silver spoon in my mouth (not knowing, or care to know the truth). He was so caught up in his own wrong ideas that he was very lazy and didn't want to work hard to get ahead. One day he took a general labor job at $10/hr that he had to get clean for...If I recall it was helping with paving roads, literally digging ditches. Everyone told him, just try working hard for them and see what happens. The job sucked, but he busted his ass every day, and he's now the supervisor making around 50k a year. This is not uncommon to get this kind of opportunity...it all comes down to the willingness to work hard. I didn't get where I am by being lazy, and neither did the majority of the people on this website. People tell me, "well you have a master's degree to fall back on"...they are right, I do, but I sucked it up and busted my ass to get that degree. I had no money, and hated school, but I gave an all out effort so I could have that degree to fall back on today.
Sure we all fall on bad times, some will see it as a challenge and give a solid effort and others will fold up shop.