Should We or Could We Draft Steve Slaton from West Virginia

[RobH4413]

Only undrafted.. and for a vet. minimum....


But in all seriousness... I'm not a draft expert but I think he'll go high. If I have a high pick... I'll draft an O-lineman... D-lineman, Corner, and a WR before a running back on this team.

Clinton Portis is not the problem... I don't understand how people are so quick to forget that he's an amazing all round back. With that being said... goodnight-

[billyharless]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Only undrafted.. and for a vet. minimum....


But in all seriousness... I'm not a draft expert but I think he'll go high. If I have a high pick... I'll draft an O-lineman... D-lineman, Corner, and a WR before a running back on this team.

Clinton Portis is not the problem... I don't understand how people are so quick to forget that he's an amazing all round back. With that being said... goodnight-

If CP is still a great RB, then I wish he would start showing us again.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by billyharless

If CP is still a great RB, then I wish he would start showing us again.

Walter Payton couldn't run with this o-line.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Walter Payton couldn't run with this o-line.

I think we are kidding ourselves to some degree here...Portis is still a good back, but he is no longer elite (if he were elite- he'd average more than 3.5ish a carry). Are we really going to argue that Portis is great when his requirements to produce are 2-3 pro-bowlers on the o-line along with 2 other very high quality guys? Hmm, shouldn't any RB be able to succeed under those circumstances? Wouldn't you think that an elite back makes a bad line average (4 yards a carry), and a good line great (4.5-5 yards per carry)? I'm not saying that portis needs to go or anything like that, but I am saying lets be realistic here...he's not GREAT and hasn't been since 2005- not unlike Santana Moss.
that said, keep portis and betts, draft O and D line...

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I think we are kidding ourselves to some degree here...Portis is still a good back, but he is no longer elite (if he were elite- he'd average more than 3.5ish a carry). Are we really going to argue that Portis is great when his requirements to produce are 2-3 pro-bowlers on the o-line along with 2 other very high quality guys? Hmm, shouldn't any RB be able to succeed under those circumstances? Wouldn't you think that an elite back makes a bad line average (4 yards a carry), and a good line great (4.5-5 yards per carry)? I'm not saying that portis needs to go or anything like that, but I am saying lets be realistic here...he's not GREAT and hasn't been since 2005- not unlike Santana Moss.
that said, keep portis and betts, draft O and D line...

I hear what your saying, and I understand you point. I just feel, when it comes to drafting a player... we need to draft on need. We don't need a Reggie Bush situation here.

Because running backs get this superstar attention, everyone talks them up. I think running back is probably the most replaceable position in football. Look at what Denver does every year. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to this, because there are some genuinely freakish running backs to have played the game (Barry Sanders). I don't think Clinton Portis is one of them, but I think he's an incredible running back. He blocks, he runs, he catches, he has heart. I wouldn't even consider Slayton an upgrade, at all.

Bottom line, if I'm drafting to win, with this team you have to draft on the offensive line. You absolutely have to. We will not win games, ever, without a solid line. So yes, I think this thread is retarded, because I don't think there has been much logic or thought put into it. It just doesn't make sense on any level (except in imagination land) to draft a running back.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I hear what your saying, and I understand you point. I just feel, when it comes to drafting a player... we need to draft on need. We don't need a Reggie Bush situation here.

Because running backs get this superstar attention, everyone talks them up. I think running back is probably the most replaceable position in football. Look at what Denver does every year. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to this, because there are some genuinely freakish running backs to have played the game (Barry Sanders). I don't think Clinton Portis is one of them, but I think he's an incredible running back. He blocks, he runs, he catches, he has heart. I wouldn't even consider Slayton an upgrade, at all.

Bottom line, if I'm drafting to win, with this team you have to draft on the offensive line. You absolutely have to. We will not win games, ever, without a solid line. So yes, I think this thread is retarded, because I don't think there has been much logic or thought put into it. It just doesn't make sense on any level (except in imagination land) to draft a running back.

You could get a running back AND offensive lineman.

But I agree that we have more pressing issues than our running game.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Walter Payton couldn't run with this o-line.

Rod , I agree with most of what you post . The O-Line has been hit by injuries that have hurt the team . However , I believe Mr. Payton averaged over 1, 500 yds with some bad Ol's when the season was 14 games . Not a knock on CP , but the Paytons and E. Campbells could run behind worse than ours and have some success . Maybe the OL and CP get a lil healthier and we crank up the ground game ? Screw the pats / and cowpukes !

[GiantsSuck703]

Clinton Portis is far from the problem on the team, the Oline is basically gone, losing Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen, our two best run blockers i might add, has killed the run game, and to say the great ones run good behind any line is crazy, look at this year alone, Frank Gore, Shaun Alexander, Stephen Jackson, Larry Johnson are all stud RBs and have done absolutely nothing this year, mainly because there offensive lines are struggling. This is a simple matter of not knowing what you have until its gone, if we cut or trade CP, there will be alot of us regretting it.
As far as the draft goes, we need a stud DE like Chris Long or Calais Campbell and a speedy LB like Xavier Adibi, I would be thrilled to get Chris Long in the first and Xavier Adibi in second.