Redskins midterm grades

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by irish

The Ravens D single-handedly won them a Super Bowl. A defense that can win like that for a team is not good, they are great.

I gave the defense a C (not an F) becuase I think they are average, not great and not bad. I guess you can call that good or average I dont really care what word you use.

You cannot honestly hold the Redskins defense up against the best defense of the modern era of football. You're right then, the Redskins defense is average. It just so happens that the vast majority of the other defenses in the league suck.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

You cannot honestly hold the Redskins defense up against the best defense of the modern era of football. You're right then, the Redskins defense is average. It just so happens that the vast majority of the other defenses in the league suck.

Yeah, I mean if that's the standard we're holding defenses to then there hasn't been a good D in this league since 2000.

[Beemnseven]

The defense has been mostly good, but not lights out. Allowing Arizona and the Jets to creep back into the game takes them down a slight notch if you ask me -- and that's primarily in the pass defense.

Kellen Clemens looked like an All-Pro, and they let him complete way too many drive-sustaining third downs last week.

Good, but not 2004 good.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The defense has been mostly good, but not lights out. Allowing Arizona and the Jets to creep back into the game takes them down a slight notch if you ask me -- and that's primarily in the pass defense.

Kellen Clemens looked like an All-Pro, and they let him complete way too many drive-sustaining third downs last week.

Good, but not 2004 good.

True enough. This defense is not dominant, but they've been pretty good. I think they're pretty comparable to the 2005 defense, which was good enough to get us into the playoffs. If we can get the run game going on a consistent basis, we should be fine.

I must admit, however, that I am scared about the injuries to Rogers and Smoot. Rogers is, of course, on IR and Smoot's injury sounds fairly serious. I wonder if the defense will plunge without healthy #2 and #3 corners.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

RB:Prior to the Jets game Portis was having a disappointing season. Part of the blame has to go to the banged up offensive line, but part of the blame also has to go on Portis. If last week was any indication of what's to come in the 2nd half of the season, the running game should be in good shape. Betts has had a limited role and has had difficulty adjusting to playing so sparingly, and probably understandably so. Grade: B

WR: Everyone outside of Randle El has been disappointing, and even Randle El as cooled off in recent weeks. Moss needs to pick up his play in the 2nd half. Grade: D

Can't really disagree with all but these two. You were kind of generous to the running backs, unless the Jets game gave them a huge boost. To me, they've been a "C-" at best.

WRs get a flat out 'F'. They've been a HUGE disappointment.

[Dirtbag59]

I'd like to point out the reason I think the Wideouts haven't done so well this is year is due to the fact that Jason Campbell hasn't developed enough in terms of throw accuracy. Thats why over the past few games we've seen that Jason has been more comfortable throwing to big targets like Cooley and Sellers. While targets like Randel El and Moss are left out in the cold.

In general I think that smaller wideouts do better with QB's that are known for accuracy (Hasselback/ Garcia/ and yes Brunell) then QB's known for having a big arm. This is because accurate QB's can throw better balls to intermediate routes that rely on wideouts to make something happen after the catch. This is how wideouts like Moss have 1,400 yard seasons. If you think back a lot of Moss's yards were on quick curls, screen passes, and quick slants. These were routes that Brunell was a little better at throwing to.

This also might be the reson why Gibbs was so adament about getting Calvin Johnson during the offseason. Not necesarily for Johnsons speed but more so for his size, giving Campbell another big target to throw to which is useful when your trying to push the ball downfield. In short I think that at this point in his development Campbell would benefit from another large target. Chad Johnson anyone? (shamless opinion plug)

[NYCSkin]

I just heard that our WRs have not caught a TD from JC for 44 quarters--going back to last season!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'd like to point out the reason I think the Wideouts haven't done so well this is year is due to the fact that Jason Campbell hasn't developed enough in terms of throw accuracy. Thats why over the past few games we've seen that Jason has been more comfortable throwing to big targets like Cooley and Sellers. While targets like Randel El and Moss are left out in the cold.

In general I think that smaller wideouts do better with QB's that are known for accuracy (Hasselback/ Garcia/ and yes Brunell) then QB's known for having a big arm. This is because accurate QB's can throw better balls to intermediate routes that rely on wideouts to make something happen after the catch. This is how wideouts like Moss have 1,400 yard seasons. If you think back a lot of Moss's yards were on quick curls, screen passes, and quick slants. These were routes that Brunell was a little better at throwing to.

This also might be the reson why Gibbs was so adament about getting Calvin Johnson during the offseason. Not necesarily for Johnsons speed but more so for his size, giving Campbell another big target to throw to which is useful when your trying to push the ball downfield. In short I think that at this point in his development Campbell would benefit from another large target. Chad Johnson anyone? (shamless opinion plug)

Fair points, but I don't think Gibbs was ever "so adamant" about landing Calvin Johnson

[LaRon + Sean = Hell 4 U]

Offense: D+
Defense: B
Special Teams: C-

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

offense D (because of coaching n Oline injuries)
defense B-
ST C

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I just heard that our WRs have not caught a TD from JC for 44 quarters--going back to last season!

I'm pretty sure the Moss TD in the Saints game was the last one. I think all our TD's except for one to Cooley against St. Louis were rushing, and I think Betts/Sellers had our recieving TD's vs NYG (Moss' TD was thrown by ARE).

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

damn that is sad. Well sunday i'm betting that Moss get one on sunday. Just throw him the damn ball.

[GMScud]

I think we have great, great talent on both sides of the ball. I think we've shown what we're capable of. So I'm gonna go a different route:

Coaching: C
Gibbs and Co. definitely haven't been great this year. A bunch of questionable calls, maybe some delegation problems, a few clock management errors, and some bad halftime adjustments, or lack thereof. But they have done a good job of keeping the team together, focused, and confident.

Consistency: C
This one is pretty self-explanatory. We're very, very up and down on offense. The defense is what beefs this grade up to a C. Frost hasn't been very good, but Suisham has saved us a few times.

Fundamentals: C-
Lots of fumbles, some awful drops by the WRs, some spells of bad run and pass blocking by the O-line, some really bad use-your-head type penalties (i.e. false starts and personal fouls), a few spells of bad tackling...

Heart(Character?): B+
IMO this is the biggest reason we aren't worse than 5-3. We have a whole bunch of don't quit in our guys. The best example was the way the team came to Redskins park the Monday after the Pats debacle. Focused and ready to get better no matter what. Countless team/coach/player meetings, full contact practices, no excuses. This is my favorite part of our players, coaches, and may I add, FANS.

HAIL.

[Meks]

qb - C+
rb - C+
te - B+
wr - D
ol - C
dl - B
lb - B+
db - B
k/p - C+

special teams - C+

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The defense has been mostly good, but not lights out. Allowing Arizona and the Jets to creep back into the game takes them down a slight notch if you ask me -- and that's primarily in the pass defense.

Kellen Clemens looked like an All-Pro, and they let him complete way too many drive-sustaining third downs last week.

Good, but not 2004 good.

its the play calling man ...

that damn 10 yd cusion made clemens look good .... All he pretty much did was throw those quick outs... so ... i think once again, with exception of the f'ing awesome blitzes williams called.... this play calling shit on both sides of the ball is startin to piss me off honestly.