Decent Job Ramsey...And Now He Has Taylor Jacobs!

[GTripp0012]

For the record, what Ramsey did as a Redskin and what Campbell has done so far are pretty similar.

There is a lot of evidence though to suggest that Campbell's still got a big breakout in front of him, where as Ramsey is already nearing his prime. If you don't dispute this point, you can't make a sane argument for Ramsey>Campbell.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

For the record, what Ramsey did as a Redskin and what Campbell has done so far are pretty similar.

There is a lot of evidence though to suggest that Campbell's still got a big breakout in front of him, where as Ramsey is already nearing his prime. If you don't dispute this point, you can't make a sane argument for Ramsey>Campbell.

Through half his first full season, Campbell has lead our team to a winning record....something Ramsey couldn't do for us AND is the bottom line for us. I just hope we're still saying this at the end of the season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Through half his first full season, Campbell has lead our team to a winning record....something Ramsey couldn't do for us AND is the bottom line for us. I just hope we're still saying this at the end of the season.

Ramsey led us within a game of .500 during an 8 game stretch in 2004.

Based on how many other factors go into offense (which only as a total makes up about 3/7ish of the total team) than just the QB, I'd say it's a bit nitpicky to talk about a 1.5 game difference in W/L record.

Hate to bring back Vince Young, but his team is 6-2 and he's been one of the worst QBs in the league thus far this year, and I think it's a great example for a team winning in spite of one player, or a team losing despite the efforts of one player.

I'm not trying to be a Ramsey supporter here, just realistic. What you see is what you get in Pat Ramsey, and it just seems that no one is really sure what exactly they saw in him. Some people are sworn to swear he was the worst QB this team ever saw and others think that with development he would have been the greatest. Reality says that neither of these positions has much basis, and that Ramsey fell about directly in the middle.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Ramsey led us within a game of .500 during an 8 game stretch in 2004.

Based on how many other factors go into offense (which only as a total makes up about 3/7ish of the total team) than just the QB, I'd say it's a bit nitpicky to talk about a 1.5 game difference in W/L record.

Hate to bring back Vince Young, but his team is 6-2 and he's been one of the worst QBs in the league thus far this year, and I think it's a great example for a team winning in spite of one player, or a team losing despite the efforts of one player.

I'm not trying to be a Ramsey supporter here, just realistic. What you see is what you get in Pat Ramsey, and it just seems that no one is really sure what exactly they saw in him. Some people are sworn to swear he was the worst QB this team ever saw and others think that with development he would have been the greatest. Reality says that neither of these positions has much basis, and that Ramsey fell about directly in the middle.

Ramsey might be a Rich Gannon. A QB that spends much of his career trying to find himself until he finds the right team and the right situation. But the Redskins just was not the team for him. I feel much better with Jason Campbell than what I did with Patrick Ramsey. Don't get me wrong, I think Pat is probably a great guy and he deserves to find his place in the NFL, but I think it's a moot point in discussing Patrick Ramsey as it is now.