Bill Cowher!!

[skinsguy]

Great! I'm beginning to wonder if I'm on an Eagles' fan forum (no offense because the mods know I love the warpath.) We have a winning record and a great chance at improving on that record this weekend, and you guys are tasteless enough to talk about getting rid of Joe Gibbs in favor for starting all over again. Gluttons for punishment? I guess you guys just love staying in constant "rebuild" mode.

[SkinEmAll]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Great! I'm beginning to wonder if I'm on an Eagles' fan forum (no offense because the mods know I love the warpath.) We have a winning record and a great chance at improving on that record this weekend, and you guys are tasteless enough to talk about getting rid of Joe Gibbs in favor for starting all over again. Gluttons for punishment? I guess you guys just love staying in constant "rebuild" mode.

I couldnt agree more. I could not have put it into better words. very nicely done skinsguy.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

I couldnt agree more. I could not have put it into better words. very nicely done skinsguy.

I dont think Gibbs can be fired nor do I think he should be. His recent tenure has been disappointing to say the least but it would be a PR nightmare for Danny to fire him. I hope this does not shock anyone but next year is the end of Gibbs contract and I would be shocked if he stayed any longer. Guess what that means? Rebuild time again. Even if they keep GW or AS as head coach I am sure they will want to do things their own way. This team is constantly rebuilding because they set them selves up to rebuild constantly. The poor results from this method speak for themselves. Hopefully someday the orgamization will see the light and right the ship. Until then its more of "hope we are a playoff team".

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont think Gibbs can be fired nor do I think he should be. His recent tenure has been disappointing to say the least but it would be a PR nightmare for Danny to fire him. I hope this does not shock anyone but next year is the end of Gibbs contract and I would be shocked if he stayed any longer. Guess what that means? Rebuild time again. Even if they keep GW or AS as head coach I am sure they will want to do things their own way. This team is constantly rebuilding because they set them selves up to rebuild constantly. The poor results from this method speak for themselves. Hopefully someday the orgamization will see the light and right the ship. Until then its more of "hope we are a playoff team".

If GW were to take over, which would be my guess at this point, I wouldn't see a major rebuilding in order. Having a coordinator take over would mean an easier transition vs. bringing in an outsider.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If GW were to take over, which would be my guess at this point, I wouldn't see a major rebuilding in order. Having a coordinator take over would mean an easier transition vs. bringing in an outsider.

It wont be a major rebulding but things will change. I dont think GW will be the head coach. I have heard on local sports talk shows that Danny does not really like GW but puts up with him because Gibbs wants him.

Personally I dont want to see GW as head coach, we know what he can do as head coach and its nothing special. I would like to see the Skins get a young, hungry, first time head coach to begin a new winning era.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

It wont be a major rebulding but things will change. I dont think GW will be the head coach. I have heard on local sports talk shows that Danny does not really like GW but puts up with him because Gibbs wants him.

Personally I dont want to see GW as head coach, we know what he can do as head coach and its nothing special. I would like to see the Skins get a young, hungry, first time head coach to begin a new winning era.

I've heard the same thing about Williams and Snyder.

I have mixed feelings about him being the next head coach. Besides, don't we have to interview other candidates because of the Rooney Rule anyway?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've heard the same thing about Williams and Snyder.

I have mixed feelings about him being the next head coach. Besides, don't we have to interview other candidates because of the Rooney Rule anyway?

Well we are in agreement on this one SS, I don't believe Williams is head coaching material at all.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

It wont be a major rebulding but things will change. I dont think GW will be the head coach. I have heard on local sports talk shows that Danny does not really like GW but puts up with him because Gibbs wants him.

Personally I dont want to see GW as head coach, we know what he can do as head coach and its nothing special. I would like to see the Skins get a young, hungry, first time head coach to begin a new winning era.

Of course there will be some change, but it wouldn't be as radical if they bring in someone from the outside.

Personally, I can see Williams taking over for a variety of reasons. For starters, if Gibbs stays on as team president he's going to have a significant say in the matter. I can't see Gibbs going after a so called "sexy" hire, I think he would want to minimize the changes as much as possible and hiring from within is the way to go in that respect.

The fact that Williams has stayed on when he could have easily jumped ship a few times for head coaching jobs around the league tells me that some sort of informal agreement may already be in place. Yes I know the $1M buyout that's in place on his contract really doesn't mean much considering we're talking about Snyder, but I still think it represents the fact that this idea has been discussed behind closed doors and some sort of arrangement may already be in place.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course there will be some change, but it wouldn't be as radical if they bring in someone from the outside.

Personally, I can see Williams taking over for a variety of reasons. For starters, if Gibbs stays on as team president he's going to have a significant say in the matter. I can't see Gibbs going after a so called "sexy" hire, I think he would want to minimize the changes as much as possible and hiring from within is the way to go in that respect.

The fact that Williams has stayed on when he could have easily jumped ship a few times for head coaching jobs around the league tells me that some sort of informal agreement may already be in place. Yes I know the $1M buyout that's in place on his contract really doesn't mean much considering we're talking about Snyder, but I still think it represents the fact that this idea has been discussed behind closed doors and some sort of arrangement may already be in place.

I dont think a young first time head coach would be a sexy hire. Tomlin was known to be head coach material but I wouldnt call him a sexy hire.

I think Skins fans have a somewhat skewed notion of GW's appeal to other teams as head coach. I dont really remember his name mentioned as a serious contender for any jobs last season, mentioned maybe but not seriously. I dont think GW is much of a hot item and believe he's still the Skins D coordinator because he didnt have any other options.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course there will be some change, but it wouldn't be as radical if they bring in someone from the outside.

Personally, I can see Williams taking over for a variety of reasons. For starters, if Gibbs stays on as team president he's going to have a significant say in the matter. I can't see Gibbs going after a so called "sexy" hire, I think he would want to minimize the changes as much as possible and hiring from within is the way to go in that respect.

The fact that Williams has stayed on when he could have easily jumped ship a few times for head coaching jobs around the league tells me that some sort of informal agreement may already be in place. Yes I know the $1M buyout that's in place on his contract really doesn't mean much considering we're talking about Snyder, but I still think it represents the fact that this idea has been discussed behind closed doors and some sort of arrangement may already be in place.

I'll go on record to say i'd like to see GW as head coach whenever JG's leaves. Who knows what Snyder will do? You're probably right about the buyout but Snyder wouldn't blink to pay that buyout if he could get a top tier coach.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Great! I'm beginning to wonder if I'm on an Eagles' fan forum (no offense because the mods know I love the warpath.) We have a winning record and a great chance at improving on that record this weekend, and you guys are tasteless enough to talk about getting rid of Joe Gibbs in favor for starting all over again. Gluttons for punishment? I guess you guys just love staying in constant "rebuild" mode.

No, they are tired of this constant state of were not rebuilding under Gibbs and failing the same old way week in and week out.

Some of these guys realize as I that this team is going no where regardless of our record, a trip to the playoffs to this team is nothing more than a weaker draft next year, and a symbol of how bad the rest of the NFC really is!

I guess we should leave it as is, tell me skinsguy what is your estimation of turn around for Gibbs? Or perhaps what should be a reasonable time frame for a new coaching staff to turn a team around?