Cowboys or Giants: Who do you want to win?

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I disagree that this is a runaway for Dallas. They still have the Giants, Lions, Panthers, and Skins on the road; Redskins, Jets, Packers, and Eagles at home. Not a runaway schedule if you ask me. Maybe the only easy game in there is the Jets, but they'll get better with their new QB too.

I think the goal is to always win the division, and to say that crown belongs to the Cowboys after 8 games is just plain ridiculuous. I will root for the Giants, and for the Skins to take care of business down the road and the division can still be won.

By the way, we still have to beat the Eagles this week.

Yeah, the goal is to win the division, but at a certain point let's be realistic.

In order for us to win the division two things have to happen: Dallas has to pretty much fall apart for the second half of the season, and the Skins have to kick it in to high gear.

Are both those things happening simultaneously impossible? No, of course not. It is, however, highly improbable, given what we know about the first half of the season, that both of those events will occur simultaneously.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Yeah, the goal is to win the division, but at a certain point let's be realistic.

In order for us to win the division two things have to happen: Dallas has to pretty much fall apart for the second half of the season, and the Skins have to kick it in to high gear.

Are both those things happening simultaneously impossible? No, of course not. It is, however, highly improbable, given what we know about the first half of the season, that both of those events will occur simultaneously.

Dallas doesn't have to fall apart, we simply have to beat them twice and beat the Giants in NY. That is all

I think if you want to talk about being realistic, let's not hand the division to Dallas after 8 games.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think if you want to talk about being realistic, let's not hand the division to Dallas after 8 games..

Nobody is "handing" Dallas anything. We're simply stating what we think is most likely. The 'Chips still have to go out and play. Certainly, the season isn't over, and maybe the G-strings and the 'Chips will get a taste of the kind of injuries the Redskins have had to deal with and the odds will even out.

It's just an opinion. I think this is Dallas' year to win the NFC East. If you don't and you think the Skins will win the division crown, then more power to you.

I guess that's why I'm not in the Kool Aid crowd.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Nobody is "handing" Dallas anything. We're simply stating what we think is most likely. The 'Chips still have to go out and play. Certainly, the season isn't over, and maybe the G-strings and the 'Chips will get a taste of the kind of injuries the Redskins have had to deal with and the odds will even out.

It's just an opinion. I think this is Dallas' year to win the NFC East. If you don't and you think the Skins will win the division crown, then more power to you.

I guess that's why I'm not in the Kool Aid crowd.

We? What, do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, I was responding to mheisig who said "barring some massive collapse, Dallas is taking the division hands down."

That, to me, sounds like handing the division to Dallas.

And my counterpoint was simply that if we beat Dallas twice and take care of business otherwise, it won't take a "massive collapse", and they won't run away with it.

That is all.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Actually, I was responding to mheisig who said "barring some massive collapse, Dallas is taking the division hands down."

That, to me, sounds like handing the division to Dallas.

And my counterpoint was simply that if we beat Dallas twice and take care of business otherwise, it won't take a "massive collapse", and they won't run away with it.

That is all.

First of all, no one is handing Dallas the division. They are effing taking it. And I love the idea that "all we have to do is beat Dallas twice"... There's an easy task. What about this Redskins team tells you they can take two from the best team in the NFC?

Those of us that think that Dallas should win are just being realistic, and realistically, Washington's best chance at the playoffs is a wild card. Dallas beating the Giants and Washington beating Philly will be the best scenario. Then Washington only has to outplay the Giants in the second half of the season, rather than the Giants AND Cowboys.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

First of all, no one is handing Dallas the division. They are effing taking it. And I love the idea that "all we have to do is beat Dallas twice"... There's an easy task. What about this Redskins team tells you they can take two from the best team in the NFC?

Those of us that think that Dallas should win are just being realistic, and realistically, Washington's best chance at the playoffs is a wild card. Dallas beating the Giants and Washington beating Philly will be the best scenario. Then Washington only has to outplay the Giants in the second half of the season, rather than the Giants AND Cowboys.

Great, Dallas is taking the Division. Let's pack up and go home now. I mean if we can't beat Dallas, what makes you think we can beat the Giants in New York?

How about a little optimism as opposed to what you call "realism", because realistically, anybody can beat anybody in this league. All the redskins offense needs to do is start averaging about 7-10 more points a game and there aren't many teams out there that can beat them.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Great, Dallas is taking the Division. Let's pack up and go home now. I mean if we can't beat Dallas, what makes you think we can beat the Giants in New York?

How about a little optimism as opposed to what you call "realism", because realistically, anybody can beat anybody in this league. All the redskins offense needs to do is start averaging about 7-10 more points a game and there aren't many teams out there that can beat them.

That's a bit more than optimism... That's a flat out fairy tale. Washington hasn't been able to do that since Gibbs returned. And I think I'm being optimistic by saying they'll make the playoffs. This team is by no means dominant, and they are going to have to win a lot of tough games just to grab the wild card.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Great, Dallas is taking the Division. Let's pack up and go home now. I mean if we can't beat Dallas, what makes you think we can beat the Giants in New York?

How about a little optimism as opposed to what you call "realism", because realistically, anybody can beat anybody in this league. All the redskins offense needs to do is start averaging about 7-10 more points a game and there aren't many teams out there that can beat them.

I'm with you on this. I don't think we're that far off. Really, it's just a matter of turning these drives that end in field goals into drives that end in touchdowns. Not an easy task but it can be done. The challenge is really to get the passing game going, which I think won't fully happen until they get McCardell (who at this time I think may be their best receiver) more involved.

This weekend is huge for us, but it's too early to hand the division to the Cowboys. Look at the Giants last year. They were 6-2 at this point and then barely made the playoffs at 8-8. Not likely the Cowboys will collapse like that, but as long as we take care of our business I think we can stay in the thick of things.

But then, I guess that's why I'm not part of the Tylenol laced with cyanide crowd around here.