Should Gibbs Flip The Script: Passing Team Now?

[offiss]

The name of the game is ball control, it doesn't matter how you do it, so long as you do it, and it results in points. To try and force the issue is just plain stupid, if you can't run then don't continue to bang your head against a wall, throwing will eventually open up that running game if you are effective, 2nd and 2 will allow for a lot of running plays they then don't have to be for a lot of yards to move the chains. Our problem has been we for the most part can't get 1 to 2 yards when teams are waiting for it. IMO Gibbs is way behind in developing Campbell, he should be much further ahead at this stage of his career. The big question is after the past 2 weeks of letting Campbell open up will Gibbs revert back when he feels the pressure, or will he continue to attack in the air which should allow Campbell to learn at a much faster pace? I beleive he has to allow Campbell to attack down field with reckless abandon, he really needs those type of in game repetitions to really get his timing down, and understanding of what, and how defenses are scheming, you just can't simulate game speed and conditions in practice.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

The name of the game is ball control, it doesn't matter how you do it, so long as you do it, and it results in points. To try and force the issue is just plain stupid, if you can't run then don't continue to bang your head against a wall, throwing will eventually open up that running game if you are effective, 2nd and 2 will allow for a lot of running plays they then don't have to be for a lot of yards to move the chains. Our problem has been we for the most part can't get 1 to 2 yards when teams are waiting for it. IMO Gibbs is way behind in developing Campbell, he should be much further ahead at this stage of his career. The big question is after the past 2 weeks of letting Campbell open up will Gibbs revert back when he feels the pressure, or will he continue to attack in the air which should allow Campbell to learn at a much faster pace? I beleive he has to allow Campbell to attack down field with reckless abandon, he really needs those type of in game repetitions to really get his timing down, and understanding of what, and how defenses are scheming, you just can't simulate game speed and conditions in practice.

JC is in his first full season starting and is looking pretty good, how much further along do you want him to be??

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

JC is in his first full season starting and is looking pretty good, how much further along do you want him to be??

A few guys have touched on this so I hope I answer all your doubts.

Campbell is in his third year, the experience he's getting now should have started his first, even though he was allowed to start last season as well as the first half of this season Gibbs has held back the offense, we saw the same offense, and the same calls as we saw with Brunell, very conservative.

Only now that we are coming out and throwing and when I say throwing I mean down field not the usual 2 yard out pattern that Gibbs has been calling for the previous 3 seasons, are we able to start to see what Campbell is capable of, I think he was ready from the very start of this season to open up the passing game, I beleive we had 8 games of wasted time an experience for Campbell at the least. Take a look at the development of Cutler who is a year behind Campbell, as for Alex Smith? The guy looked very good last season when Norv was calling the plays, I wouldn't judge him under Nolan, I think we all are very aware of what kind of coach Nolan really is. I am not saying Campbell isn't on his way, all though I am very concerned by some of his decision making, in particular the INT late in the game when he could have probably ran it in for a TD, IMO there is no excuse for that, That play was all instinct, and he failed, will he make the right decision next time? I hope so! You have to do to learn and only in the last 2 games have we seen the offense start to open up, I would like to buy into the theory that Campbell wasnt ready but I haven't seen anything different since Gibbs arrived, I think from listening to a lot of the interviews of the players Moss, and Campbell in particular you hear a lot of comments like we can only do as much as the coaches allow us to do, is a subtle message to Gibbs that he is holding them back.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by offiss

The name of the game is ball control, it doesn't matter how you do it, so long as you do it, and it results in points. To try and force the issue is just plain stupid, if you can't run then don't continue to bang your head against a wall, throwing will eventually open up that running game if you are effective, 2nd and 2 will allow for a lot of running plays they then don't have to be for a lot of yards to move the chains. Our problem has been we for the most part can't get 1 to 2 yards when teams are waiting for it. IMO Gibbs is way behind in developing Campbell, he should be much further ahead at this stage of his career. The big question is after the past 2 weeks of letting Campbell open up will Gibbs revert back when he feels the pressure, or will he continue to attack in the air which should allow Campbell to learn at a much faster pace? I beleive he has to allow Campbell to attack down field with reckless abandon, he really needs those type of in game repetitions to really get his timing down, and understanding of what, and how defenses are scheming, you just can't simulate game speed and conditions in practice.

How do you figure Gibbs is "way behind" in developing Campbell? If Campbell is behind, then where does that leave guys like Alex Smith, Eli Manning, and oh yeah, Vince Young?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

The name of the game is ball control, it doesn't matter how you do it, so long as you do it, and it results in points. To try and force the issue is just plain stupid, if you can't run then don't continue to bang your head against a wall, throwing will eventually open up that running game if you are effective, 2nd and 2 will allow for a lot of running plays they then don't have to be for a lot of yards to move the chains. Our problem has been we for the most part can't get 1 to 2 yards when teams are waiting for it. IMO Gibbs is way behind in developing Campbell, he should be much further ahead at this stage of his career. The big question is after the past 2 weeks of letting Campbell open up will Gibbs revert back when he feels the pressure, or will he continue to attack in the air which should allow Campbell to learn at a much faster pace? I beleive he has to allow Campbell to attack down field with reckless abandon, he really needs those type of in game repetitions to really get his timing down, and understanding of what, and how defenses are scheming, you just can't simulate game speed and conditions in practice.

I'm not really sure how you can say Gibbs is way behind in developing Campbell. There really isn't any evidence of this. In regards to letting Campbell continue to attack or "reverting back when he feels pressure", I believe we will game plan according to what strengths and weaknesses our opponent's defense has. We will attack when we need to and grind it out when the defense is tired.