Reche Caldwell and Keenan McCardell: 2008 Plans?

[MTK]

I really started thinking yesterday that we need to go out this offseason and get a big time WR in here.

Sorry, but Moss just isn't a go to guy you can count on game in and game out. We need a true star at WR, a guy that Campbell can grow with and have that special chemistry with. Right now we have a bunch of #2 and #3 WRs.

We do have a go to guy at TE in Cooley, but we need a go to guy at WR to really make this offense dangerous.

Put me on the WR bandwagon for this offseason.

Does anyone know what free agents will be available?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really started thinking yesterday that we need to go out this offseason and get a big time WR in here.

Sorry, but Moss just isn't a go to guy you can count on game in and game out. We need a true star at WR, a guy that Campbell can grow with and have that special chemistry with. Right now we have a bunch of #2 and #3 WRs.

We do have a go to guy at TE in Cooley, but we need a go to guy at WR to really make this offense dangerous.

Put me on the WR bandwagon for this offseason.

Does anyone know what free agents will be available?

Bernard Berrian, Patrick Crayton, Bryant Johnson, maybe Matt Jones. Those are the first names that come to mind

[ripst1983_2007]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bernard Berrian, Patrick Crayton, Bryant Johnson, maybe Matt Jones. Those are the first names that come to mind

well personally i think that if we were to get a WR during the offseason, that id would have to be in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft. maybe a guy like maurice purify of of Nebraska or James Hardy out of Indiana.

our WR group is good and i think there is no need to draft anyone early out of the draft.

but if either mccardell of caldwell stick around, there will no need to draft a WR.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bernard Berrian, Patrick Crayton, Bryant Johnson, maybe Matt Jones. Those are the first names that come to mind

If that's all that will be available, Washington may need to work a trade(as much as I hate giving away draft picks). They need to find a way to steal one of the young freaks from Detroit or Arizona.

[calia]

I've read that Chad Johnson will be available (and that he's unhappy in Cincy). A malcontent, to be sure, but talk about a big talent. I'd still be inclined against, because character counts.

[bigSkinsfan61]

Originally Posted by calia

I've read that Chad Johnson will be available (and that he's unhappy in Cincy). A malcontent, to be sure, but talk about a big talent. I'd still be inclined against, because character counts.

i think OOOcho sinco would fit in fine to bad we cannot afford him people in dc would eat him up..

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by bigSkinsfan61

i think OOOcho sinco would fit in fine to bad we cannot afford him people in dc would eat him up..

We can't afford him, Cincy would likely ask for a 1st rounder plus something else, and he's not the kind of player I want on my team.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bernard Berrian, Patrick Crayton, Bryant Johnson, maybe Matt Jones. Those are the first names that come to mind

Those guys all sound like more #2 and #3 receivers to me. We already have plenty of those.

Among many other things, this team needs a knockout punch at wideout -- a true star, a playmaker you can always count on in the clutch. Even Santana Moss doesn't fit that label.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Those guys all sound like more #2 and #3 receivers to me. We already have plenty of those.

Among many other things, this team needs a knockout punch at wideout -- a true star, a playmaker you can always count on in the clutch. Even Santana Moss doesn't fit that label.

Beemnseven, I agree that the team needs anohter WR but there is not much out there as far as playmakers that are available and I would hate to see the Skins trade any more picks. Plus in my opinion the Redskins need to get a stud defensive end in the draft in the worst way - opposing qb's are getting to much time and Phillip Daniels is getting too old so we should not trade the first round pick for anyone.

Does anyone know who the good wideouts coming out of college are that are available rounds 2 and down assuming we take a defensive end with the first pick?

[Cowell]

It's hard to say whether I am pleased with our receivers. Sometimes they play great sometimes you have to wonder. I really think that Reche Caldwell and Keenan McCardell were great pickups. If McCardell wants I think he has another 1-2 years left in the tank. As for Reche, when he is thrown to he catches it, which is what we need here obviously. He probably won't ask for a big contract so I would try to lock him up for another couple years. I also believe that that Mix kid could be a factor. He is just too big not to be.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bernard Berrian, Patrick Crayton, Bryant Johnson, maybe Matt Jones. Those are the first names that come to mind

If Crayton walks from Dallas (i.e. Jerry Jones lets him get away), he could blossom into an absolute superstar here.

[Bill B]

[quote=Mattyk72;388111]I really started thinking yesterday that we need to go out this offseason and get a big time WR in here.

Sorry, but Moss just isn't a go to guy you can count on game in and game out. We need a true star at WR, a guy that Campbell can grow with and have that special chemistry with. Right now we have a bunch of #2 and #3 WRs.

We do have a go to guy at TE in Cooley, but we need a go to guy at WR to really make this offense dangerous.

Put me on the WR bandwagon for this offseason.

Does anyone know what free agents will be available?[/quote]

Andre Johnson of the Houston Texans is a free agent this offseason (we seem to like the Miami thing and Johnson is a flat out stud). Only thing is I don't we have the cap room flexilibity with all the impending things with both sides of the line getting old and Andre Johnson will probably be getting somewhere in the range of a $10 million bonus.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I happen to think that WR is one of the biggest weaknesses on the 2007 version of the Washington Redskins. Allow me to explain:

Brandon Lloyd is worthless. If the Redskins cut him the day after the season is over, he'll be sitting by his telephone waiting for it to ring for at least 6 weeks - - and even then it won't be an NFL GM calling, it will probably be a telemarketing call.

Antwaan Randle-El is a punt/kick returner and a #3 reciever. That's it; that's all. As soon as he got hurt and McCardell and Caldwell got more playing time, the passing game got more efficient. Yes, ARE gives the Skins the ability to run a gadget play once or twice a month but his meager productivity on the field in normal play situations doesn't make that worth it. By the way,on those gadget plays this year, ARE has 19 yards passing and a net of minus-3 yards rushing. Glad the team has that potential in its arsenal...

Santana Moss is fun to watch - - if you like 8-10 yard catches and his herky-jerky first down signal. The problem is that even though WRs are ranked on the basis of number of catches, that's not what makes the really good ones really good. There's this thing called "scoring touchdowns". At the moment, Moss has been in the end zone ONCE this year. Since he's been here he's played in 40 games and has 16 TDs. That's about 6.4 TDs per year. And that's not good enough for the "lead receiver" on a team that wants to be a "contender" for something other than taking a Caribbean cruise during the month of January. And don't anyone rhapsodize about how Moss caught those two bombs from Brunell a couple of years ago to beat Dallas. That's ancient history and there have been boatloads of games since then where the Skins could have used a big catch by a big time WR to win a game. He hasn't provided it...

James Thrash is the team's most versatile receiver and the most rounded player of the lot. He actually blocks people on every running play and usually the block is an effective one. There is no way you can say that about Moss or Lloyd or ARE. But Thrash is a #3 receiver at best. When he was in Philly and tried to assume the role of lead receiver he was a bust. He tries hard on every play, but his skills are limited. Nonetheless, of all the WRs on this team, he leads the team in TDs this year with TWO. And this is December ... Scary...

McCardell and Caldwell are better all around receivers than anything else on the roster at the moment unless you want to fantasize about the untapped and about-to-explode potential contained in Anthony Mix, Stephen Harris, Jimmy Farris, Mike Espy and Burl Toler.

The Redskins should definitely keep McCardell and Caldwell next year AND look for more talent at this position.

[theJBexperience]

[quote=Bill B;388123]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really started thinking yesterday that we need to go out this offseason and get a big time WR in here.

Sorry, but Moss just isn't a go to guy you can count on game in and game out. We need a true star at WR, a guy that Campbell can grow with and have that special chemistry with. Right now we have a bunch of #2 and #3 WRs.

We do have a go to guy at TE in Cooley, but we need a go to guy at WR to really make this offense dangerous.

Put me on the WR bandwagon for this offseason.

Does anyone know what free agents will be available?[/quote]

Andre Johnson of the Houston Texans is a free agent this offseason (we seem to like the Miami thing and Johnson is a flat out stud). Only thing is I don't we have the cap room flexilibity with all the impending things with both sides of the line getting old and Andre Johnson will probably be getting somewhere in the range of a $10 million bonus.

Johnson is a free agent? I'd go after him. He's big and has been getting better each year. I'd think he'd stay in Houston though. He and schaub have a good thing going.

[SC Skins Fan]

[quote=theJBexperience;388198]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Johnson is a free agent? I'd go after him. He's big and has been getting better each year. I'd think he'd stay in Houston though. He and schaub have a good thing going.

Johnson is a stud, and the sort of player the Redskins need. I'm fairly certain, however, that he is not a Free Agent. This is his fifth season in the league and since high first round picks typically sign for 6-7 years he's almost certainly got time left on his contract. Houston won't let him get away either.