How Will Collins Peform Down The Stretch???

[MTK]

Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws

Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws

Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength

Those are some huge positives...and yeah sure he's a backup for a reason..but then I think gee I used to say that about jeff garcia until last year!

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws

Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength

I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.

Thats where the WRs have to step it up. They know TC can't hurl it down the field, they gotta get open and when they get the ball, get the dancing feet on and get downfield.

Team effort!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.

True, but I'm thinking that Collins could end up being more efficient in the short to intermediate range.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

True, but I'm thinking that Collins could end up being more efficient in the short to intermediate range.

I agree. When that offense was clicking in KC they didn't even have a deep threat WR on the roster most of the time and they still steamrolled teams. I know Todd wasn't starting, but my point is the deep pass wasn't a big factor at all and they had a ton of success regardless. They also had an offensive line that was playing as good as any team in football. I think Collins could do well against a very average Giants secondary, provided the O-line steps up. They protected him well on Thursday for the most part, but they've stunk it up pretty bad lately. And the Giants get after the QB like crazy.

Hey, imagine if we win out, make the playoffs, Collins plays amazingly, and when Campbell is healthy for the 1st playoff game we have a full-blown QB controversy??

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.

Maybe JC could throw the long ball but how long has it been sense he threw a completed long pass.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Maybe JC could throw the long ball but how long has it been sense he threw a completed long pass.

Well I guess he hasn't thrown any 30+ or 40+ passes lately, but it's the fact of the matter that they know he can throw deep keep the defense honest. If I was the opponent I would put 8 in the box eliminating the short passes & running game. Make TC throw the 15+ passes but I do feel TC will do well.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws

Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength

i agree, glad someone said this. reading thru this thread everyone is saying TC holds onto the ball too long but to me its the opposite. JC would hold onto the ball and not throw it until a receiver is open and looking at him. with TC it seems he gets rid of the ball quicker and more on-time for saunders precision timing routes. the second a reciever is in open space the ball has already left TC's hands where as with JC the second the receiver is open thats when he starts his wind up.

plus TC made some great hot route blitz reads in the bears game, but he does float that ball out there which is a problem.

ps - im support campbell 100% but he has to learn from collins if this saunders type passing game is going to be fluid.

qoute from moss about watching collins in practice- "I just watch how fluent he is when he runs the offense."

go skins!