Has Todd Collins vindicated the Al Saunders offense?

[GTripp0012]

Not really. I mean Campbell was making all the same throws that Collins is. The difference is that Collins rarely turns the ball over, and has yet to be picked.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not really. I mean Campbell was making all the same throws that Collins is. The difference is that Collins rarely turns the ball over, and has yet to be picked.

I agree that Campbell has made the same throws, but Collins is hitting those 30-40 yard passes for TD's to his wide receivers. Campbell hit Cooley a couple of times but had a hard time finding Moss et.al. in the end zone. He did, however, hit those guys for long gains between the 20's.

Campbell also seemed to get a little rattled in the second half. Not unnerved, but it now looks to me that he had a little trouble dealing with opposing defenses second half adjustments. I expect that having another offseason to review will fix that for him. I read an article in the Post where Dick Vermiel was interviewed saying that he believes Campbell really needs this next offseason and then he will light it up.

Right now, Collins is just making the throws in the second half that keep sustaining drives and scoring points. We have lacked that with Campbell.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not really. I mean Campbell was making all the same throws that Collins is. The difference is that Collins rarely turns the ball over, and has yet to be picked.

Campbell cant make half the throws TC can. Campbell throws a good deep ball but thats about it. Campbell gets the ball out of his hands fast and can make the short, medium, and touch passes that Campbell cant. Also TC doesnt fumble because he doesnt hold the ball down by his hip to start his release. He moves so much faster than TC right now its amazing. I think this is the AS offense Gibbs thought he was getting and now that there is a QB that can run it good things are happening.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by irish

Campbell cant make half the throws TC can. Campbell throws a good deep ball but thats about it. Campbell gets the ball out of his hands fast and can make the short, medium, and touch passes that Campbell cant. Also TC doesnt fumble because he doesnt hold the ball down by his hip to start his release. He moves so much faster than TC right now its amazing. I think this is the AS offense Gibbs thought he was getting and now that there is a QB that can run it good things are happening.

Uh, Collins had two fumbles yesterday, and has had three in four games, so I wouldn't exactly say he "doesn't fumble"? And saying that Campbell "can't" make the same throws as Collins is ridiculous. He wasn't making the throws before we was injured, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to make those throws.

Collins certainly has the timing figured out in Saunders offense better than Campbell, but the upside to Todd Collins is nonexistent. I agree with Brud's comments. Seeing Collins run the offense will help Campbell develop within Saunders' system.

[Jesse E. Timmons]

consider it vindicated.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not really. I mean Campbell was making all the same throws that Collins is. The difference is that Collins rarely turns the ball over, and has yet to be picked.

Strongly disagree with the first part of your comment. While Campbell has a much stronger arm and can gun the ball to receivers, he wasn't throwing in anticipation of where the receiver will be like TC has done. The timing with which TC is delivering those medium range passes is far superior to what Campbell has done. Campbell has a little way to go before he can run the offense like this.