What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?

[SmootSmack]

Shawn Springs hurt his leg in the first series, affected him all game long

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

Skins need a pass rusher at DE...Carter was really good this year! The two young DT's are good and getting better. If we get a stud pass rusher then double teams will help oher players and cause mayhem without blitzing.

I would also limit Free agent signings...not just cause of money.

O-line depth

and WR.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 2BIG2BSKINNY

Skins need a pass rusher at DE...Carter was really good this year! The two young DT's are good and getting better. If we get a stud pass rusher then double teams will help oher players and cause mayhem without blitzing.

I would also limit Free agent signings...not just cause of money.

O-line depth

and WR.

Carter is beast at DE. Daniels on the other hand, sometimes I forget he's over there. Has he really done anything memorable this season?

[EXoffender]

OL and CB. Move Springs to FS and Landry to SS.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

OL and CB. Move Springs to FS and Landry to SS.

I've been saying for three years move Springs to FS if necessary. But I think Landry has proven it's not necessary.

[jamf]

The first thing we have to realize is that we can't address all of our needs...

Priority: Quality Center, Depth Offensive linemen( because of the injury history of our linemen) and Pass Rushing Defensive Linemen.

We need a quality Center. Rabach does not get any push on short yardage plays. On most 3rd and 1 plays, the Defensive Line overpowers Rabach and pushes him into the backfield. We need a guy big enough to hold his own ground and athletic enough to pull.

We also need more quality depth on the Offensive Line. Jansen scares me. He might not be able to play at a quality level because of all off the injuries he's sustained in the last few seasons. Randy Thomas should be ok but he's also had injuries

Another area in drastic need, Defensive Line. Part of the problem is scheme. Williams has the defensive line clog up the gaps first so Fletcher can run side line to side line without getting blocked and rushing the passer is second priority.
They need to bring in few young guys who can run.


Luxury Additions: Safety, Cornerback, WR, LB, and Special Teams.
We can't have a probowl caliber player at every position.
Reed Doughty held his own the last few weeks. If there is an opportunity to get a player with more speed and who can be more physical against the run, we should bring him in. But we should not draft a Safety in the first 3 rounds.

Same with corner. Rogers won't be the same. Springs had a great year but was injured the whole year. Smoot was inconsistent at times and great at other times. Torrence has problems,but then again every 4th cornerback in the league sucks. I would like to see another insurance cornerback just incase springs goes down. Torrence should be counted on to be a nickel back.

At WR, We need to get rid of the garbage on the team. I love james thrash but it might be time to part ways with him too. Santana Moss has some injury issues but we are going to have to bite the bullet. we can't bring in a #1 WR. I'm so proud of Randle El. He really stepped up for us. 10 catches yesterday... He plays hard and in my eyes he is a quality #2 WR. He earned alot of respect this year. Hopefully Mike Espy can step up, but i'm not counting on him. Hopefully we can find a big target who can run routes. We also need to increase team speed at WR. McCardell and Caldwell are not deep threats.

The McIntosh injury scares me. He is probably done for 2008. Godfrey played well but he is older and a little slow. HB Blades looked good at times. It would be nice to bring in a quality veteran just incase Blades or Godfrey cant step up. Also, Washington has been battling injuries the last two years, it might be time to start grooming a replacement for him.


Special teams has played pretty well all year. I love Rock Cartwright, But there is no way we can afford to pay him starting Running back money.
We need to bring in competition for the punting and kicking.

[bigm29]

Big reciever who is actually good
upgrade both lines,pete kendall is not docks replacement if you ask me
maybe a corner cuz springs is gettin old and rogers is not gonne be 100% next season

sorry to say but i still aint sold on jason campbell but i understand that hes young and you gotta give him a few years but still.

[rypper11]

Rabach is one of the best centers in the game and isn't going anywhere. Remember when he was out how lost the whole line looked? His pre-snap adjustments are key to keeping JC healthy and he is great at getting to the second level. No, he can't push a DT back but neither can most. 3rd and 1 needs to go over guard but Fabini sucks so bad a junior college LB can run him over so you can overload the left and get penetration. We need to get healthy here but I think we shown that outside of the starting 5 (Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas and Janson), Heyer is the only capable backup right now.
I don't buy the "we need a tall wr" argument. There are a lot of worthless tall wr's and some great smaller ones. What is needed is guys who consistently get seperation and don't drop passes. We don't have that guy we know will catch it on 3rd down. Bring in lots of wrs and have open competition. Nobody's job should be safe (sorry KM and Thrash though I hope they both can be found spots).
QB and RB is set though we need a 3rd string at each postion (I don't want Brunell back and I think Rock will want to get more carries elsewhere).

Springs needs to come back. Yes he bites on double moves but that is also why he gets picks on slants (Cowboys) and digs (Bears). I'd like a CB or two but only for depth really.
I like Doughty at safety teamed with LL. He's not a future HOF'er but he has shown the past month that he can play. Keep Fox, Stoutmaire and PP for depth or bring in another journeyman.
LB needs to be addressed. Rocky is okay when healthy, but he won't be in '08. Godfrey is servicable but is too old to hold up for a full season. Blades? Probably not a full-time starter yet.
If we get only one FA pickup this year, please make it Justin Smith. A starting line of him, Goldstein, Griffin and Carter would improve the #8 defense dramatically.
I doubt anybody we get in the draft is projected to start though if we have as many injuries next year, who knows.

[sancho2613]

I would like to see the redskins with a big time reciever... when i was watching the game yesterday they were saying that there was really no speed on the recievers besides Moss

[CPAlltheWay012]

Originally Posted by sancho2613

I would like to see the redskins with a big time reciever... when i was watching the game yesterday they were saying that there was really no speed on the recievers besides Moss

that's why I want the Skins to take a look at Troy Williamson..maybe make an offer with B. Lloyd or something ..

I really think a different team (besides the Vikings) can get this kid turned around..

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

that's why I want the Skins to take a look at Troy Williamson..maybe make an offer with B. Lloyd or something ..

I really think a different team (besides the Vikings) can get this kid turned around..

Is he a FA or are the Vikings cutting him? It would be worth a look, after all the draft boards at the time had us drafting him instead of Rogers.

[SFREDSKIN]

The way I see it is:
Offensive Line
You move Alexander as a G
We have a Heyer as backup
Draft a young G/C combo guy in the 3rd or 4th round and another one in the 5th/6th

Defensive line

Draft a DE with the first round pick if you get an equivalent one in the 2nd round then pick a WR or CB
Give Wilson and Buzbee a chance next year, I think after an off season of bulking up and learning new techniques this guys could be here for a while.

Secondary

Bring back Springs
Draft a young CB round depends on talent level at other positions

Wide Receiver

Give Espy and Mix a chance
Draft a young physical receiver, again round depends on talent level

Linebacker

Either draft a mid-round or sign FA

Running Back

Draft a Joe Gibbs type RB in the mid-rounds

Kicker

Draft one in the late rounds

Note* Bring back Springs, Griffin and Daniels (I'm on the fence on this one)

[rk3025]

Does anyone know how many times we had a third or fourth and one to go and could not get one yard?
We got John Riggins from the Jets and wonder if there are any Joe Gibbs running backs still around

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The way I see it is:
Offensive Line
You move Alexander as a G
We have a Heyer as backup
Draft a young G/C combo guy in the 3rd or 4th round and another one in the 5th/6th

Defensive line

Draft a DE with the first round pick if you get an equivalent one in the 2nd round then pick a WR or CB
Give Wilson and Buzbee a chance next year, I think after an off season of bulking up and learning new techniques this guys could be here for a while.

Secondary

Bring back Springs
Draft a young CB round depends on talent level at other positions

Wide Receiver

Give Espy and Mix a chance
Draft a young physical receiver, again round depends on talent level

Linebacker

Either draft a mid-round or sign FA

Running Back

Draft a Joe Gibbs type RB in the mid-rounds

Kicker

Draft one in the late rounds

Note* Bring back Springs, Griffin and Daniels (I'm on the fence on this one)

[DieHardSkin]

How about in 2008 we are a little smarter than blowing up the reciever core. Have we not learned in the past what happens when you bring in high priced free agents or rely on big name draft picks. We need to concentrate on the offense and defense line, and give Anthony Mix who is a big reciever a chance. After all it usually takes a drafted reciever 2 to 3 years before they are worthly.

[Big C]

first off re-sign todd collins and rock cartwright not sure who our other pending free agents are

retain shawn springs

next, fill some holes through free agency.

bryant johnson from arizona would be a great signing. 6'3" good hands has been productive as a #3 receiver in arizona behind boldin and fitzgerald, could do well out here and shouldnt ask for a ton of money

floyd womack, OG from seattle would be a decent signing to provide depth for our o-line. faneca would be too expensive so i think we should go after some second tier guys like him. ruben brown would be another who shouldnt be too expensive and would be a great backup

where it gets tricky is here. do we go for a DE in the draft or through free agency. i would opt for free agency, i dont feel comfortable drafting a dlineman high. if we opt to go through free agency here, id like us to get a young pass rusher in the 3rd round who we can groom. obviously there is jared allen, but he will be extremely expensive. then there is justin smith, whose never been a huge sack guy but is good against the run. terrell suggs is another option, he is young but is undersized for a defensive end and has played outside linebacker in the 3-4 in baltimore. in the end id opt for justin smith, he would be the least expensive of the 3 i mentioned and can play run and pass, though not as good a rusher as the other 2. as mentioned before id also draft a young pass rusher in the 3rd round who can develop, and let smith handle the run if he struggles rushing the passer

at linebacker i think we have a lack of speed. id shy away from briggs, too expensive. again, id like us to go for the 2nd tier guys more often than not. id like us to take a look at demorrio williams from atlanta or boss bailey. bailey has had tons of injury problems, which should lower his demands but he is good in coverage and has good speed. demorrio williams is another young linebacker who could be leaving atlanta, i think he could do well here

if possible, go for rob bironas the kicker from tennessee, he is an RFA so they could match any offer. suisham has had good stats but he isnt too reliable, if we can upgrade id like us to do so.

for the draft, i think we should go cornerback first round, o-line second round, defensive end third round, from there on best available player. id like us to add more depth on the o line and d line throughout the draft.

summary:
re-sign collins and cartwright, keep springs
sign bryant johnson, floyd womack, justin smith, demorrio williams or boss bailey
draft cb first, oline 2nd, de 3rd, best available onwards