Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah but this isn't something you evaluate with numbers. Romo's career is so young, and he's played only two playoff games. So looking at stats obviously isn't going to tell you much. What we do know, though, is that Tony Romo has started off the last two seasons absolutely red hot, but then played like asscrack coming down the stretch. He's not a choke artist because of his playoff performances, he's a choke artist because:

1) His December performances have been awful.

2) Like Matty said, he was not acting one bit like a leader in the 4th quarter yesterday. He was bitching at his guys. He was panicking. He was playing frantically. There was no poise whatsoever, no confident calm to his demeanor. You can just tell by looking at the guy - he's a decent QB with decent talent - but he has no intangibles. He's got an unorthodox delivery and a gunslinger's mentality just like Brett Favre, but none of Favre's take-charge leadership. That doesn't reflect in the numbers, you can only see that by watching the game and paying attention to human behavior.

So far in his young career, he's definitely a choke artist. He's got plenty of time to turn that around, but I honestly don't like his chances in the NEXT heat of the moment - he's just not a leader.

C'mon Schneed. The O-line was getting manhandled. The center kept screwing up. You can't blame him for getting frustrated with the O-line. I've seen Farve get on his guys for running the wrong routes. But it's funny when Farve does it it's leadership. Romo could have played better. No doubt about it. But it didn't seem like he was getting much help.

Can anyone around here actually give the NYG some credit?? 9 straight road wins in the NFL is just ridiculous.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

C'mon Schneed. The O-line was getting manhandled. The center kept screwing up. You can't blame him for getting frustrated with the O-line. I've seen Farve get on his guys for running the wrong routes. But it's funny when Farve does it it's leadership. Romo could have played better. No doubt about it. But it didn't seem like he was getting much help.

Can anyone around here actually give the NYG some credit?? 9 straight road wins in the NFL is just ridiculous.

Just like Schneed said, have you watched him this whole December? It wasn't just the Giants game. It was every game this December. He just hasn't played well.

When TO is out you see exactly how vital he is to making Tony look a LOT better than he is.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just like Schneed said, have you watched him this whole December? It wasn't just the Giants game. It was every game this December. He just hasn't played well.

When TO is out you see exactly how vital he is to making Tony look a LOT better than he is.

TO is one of the best WR's of all time. If he misses any amount of time of course it's going to hurt the offense and the QB. If Randy Moss misses time in NE no way do they score as many points w/out him.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

TO is one of the best WR's of all time. If he misses any amount of time of course it's going to hurt the offense and the QB. If Randy Moss misses time in NE no way do they score as many points w/out him.

Right. But Brady can work with even crappy receivers...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Right. But Brady can work with even crappy receivers...

Yes he can work with crappy WR's cause he's Tom Brady. Dude is just a great QB with the sickest pocket pressence I've ever seen. They almost got to the SB last year with those crappy WR's. HOWEVER, I didn't see Brady throwing 50TD passes to those crappy wr's either.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

C'mon Schneed. The O-line was getting manhandled. The center kept screwing up. You can't blame him for getting frustrated with the O-line. I've seen Farve get on his guys for running the wrong routes. But it's funny when Farve does it it's leadership. Romo could have played better. No doubt about it. But it didn't seem like he was getting much help.

Can anyone around here actually give the NYG some credit?? 9 straight road wins in the NFL is just ridiculous.

Yeah they were not keeping guys off Romo, true. But step up and take a 5 yard sack, don't run back and take a 10 yard one. And don't commit intentional grounding. And don't bitch at your offensive line in the middle of the game - exactly what does that accomplish?

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah they were not keeping guys off Romo, true. But step up and take a 5 yard sack, don't run back and take a 10 yard one. And don't commit intentional grounding. And don't bitch at your offensive line in the middle of the game - exactly what does that accomplish?

No one is happier to see Romo fail than me, but I guess you've also got to consider that his scrambling and improvising back there in the pocket has also resulted in some pretty big plays this year as well. Right now that is his game and you've got to live and die with it (for now). As he gets older (and slower) that will have to change. He almost got away a couple of times even towards the end of the Giants game, the problem at the end was that the Giants had 3 and 4 guys coming at him in waves rather than just one guy getting free. Have to give the credit to the Giants defense, they really played well, especially at the end when the stopped the Cowboys even when they had good field positions and multiple opportunities to win the game.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't call Romo a choke artist, anymore than I would call JC a choke artist. When you are playing from behind it becomes more likely that you're going to make a mistake (unless you're one of the all-time greats).

T.O.'s tearful presser notwithstanding, I would be concerned if my QB was hanging out with a pop star in Mexico rather than prepping for the game in his down time before a divisional playoff game. That's not just the media, that's an indication of how seriously you take the game. I also heard some Cowboys were at the National Championship game on Monday night. Not that they lost the game because of those things, but in a close matchup any little edge could help. You've got the offseason for those things.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah they were not keeping guys off Romo, true. But step up and take a 5 yard sack, don't run back and take a 10 yard one. And don't commit intentional grounding. And don't bitch at your offensive line in the middle of the game - exactly what does that accomplish?

I don't have a problem with him bitching at the line. I've seen alot of QB's do that. Hell, Collins was bitching out Sellers right on the field for messing up. That shit happens all the time. The other stuff is just his style of play. He's not a stand in the pocket and stare down the rush kind of guy. He's more of a street ball type of guy. He tries to run around and make plays. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I'm not sticking up for the guy. He made his share of mistakes. No doubt about it. I just hate it when people seem to blame one guy when it's the whole team that lost the game.

All QB's do some stupid shit when they've been knocked around by 280lb strong as hell NFL DE's. Look at Collins last week? He didn't look like the same guy we'd seen the previous weeks when the line was protecting him did he?