No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by QBall

Wade Phillips dont either!

That's why I like this board! You guys would even step up to defend a guy who is only RUMORED to be your next head coach from a rival fan! CLASSIC! I LOVE IT!

[QBall]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That's why I like this board! You guys would even step up to defend a guy who is only RUMORED to be your next head coach from a rival fan! CLASSIC! I LOVE IT!

Wade Phillips is a dud though, you agree?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by QBall

Wade Phillips is a dud though, you agree?

Not at all.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Not at all.

Never won a playoff game he's a chump like T.O. and Romo.....

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by QBall

Never won a playoff game he's a chump like T.O. and Romo.....

13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.

Let's just clarify a bit. Marty is a good coach, but his dismal postseason record is definitely a big blemish on his resume.

If the Cowboys take another early playoff exit next year, then would you start placing Wade in the chump category?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's just clarify a bit. Marty is a good coach, but his dismal postseason record is definitely a big blemish on his resume.

If the Cowboys take another early playoff exit next year, then would you start placing Wade in the chump category?

Nope. As I said, the Cowboys are the 4th youngest team in the NFL, you can credit playoff inexperience as much as anything. But the age of his team is not a reflection of the coach.

Now if Wade was to do something like call consecutive timeouts, that is another story.

Hey Parcells was 0-2 in the playoffs in Dallas, so is he a chump? Nope, his Hall of Fame speech is written. In the salary cap era, Joe Gibbs had twice as many playoff losses as wins, but is he in the "chump" category? Nope.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.

I know that you're a Dallas fan and I would be the same way if Redskins were on the line.

But please don't give Wade too much credit for 13-3. He was given a pretty sweet gig and stepped into that job nicely. What moves did he make personel wise that Bill didn't do? He just sat on the sidelines with that dumb blank look on his face most of the year.

I'm not sure but what was the conversation between Garret and Jones about to get him to stay? Wade is a lame duck and if Dallas starts out badly he'll be fired mid-stream. Wade just really does not invoke any thougths, he's blank man!!

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by QBall

I know that you're a Dallas fan and I would be the same way if Redskins were on the line.

But please don't give Wade too much credit for 13-3. He was given a pretty sweet gig and stepped into that job nicely. What moves did he make personel wise that Bill didn't do? He just sat on the sidelines with that dumb blank look on his face most of the year.

I'm not sure but what was the conversation between Garret and Jones about to get him to stay? Wade is a lame duck and if Dallas starts out badly he'll be fired mid-stream. Wade just really does not invoke any thougths, he's blank man!!

Blank? You know I do not even want to go there, because it would force me to remind everyone of the blank look on Gibbs face on the sidelines, expecially in his first season back coaching. I seem to remember him struggling with soemthing called the play clock when he came back to coaching, and need you be reminded of the consecutive timeout penalty he got in his final year. But he is not a chump, and I will continue to believe that.

Again Phillips is not a Gibbs, Parcell, Lombardi, Landry or any of the others, He is what he is. And of all the cadidates available, he gives the team the best chance to win right now. That may or may not change next season.
We'll see.