Merged Thread: Romney Drops Out; Can McCain Defeat Democrats?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

hucklebee is really the only rep. still in the race. and he is quickly being pushed aside.

God Huckabee is the most primitive type of person ever. He doesn't believe in anything. No gay marriage? Fine I can live with that. But don't take away the civil unions. I think if he had his way he'd probably just segregate the USA all over again. And then try his hardest to erase the line between church and state. And shit, that's blurred already. Not a Christian? Well you will be if Huckabee gets in the White House. Which he won't thank God.

I can't wait till that generation dies out. (Not the people. More so that uber southern conservative thinking). I'm ready for some more progression, not regression.

I could bitch about Huckabee all day. I'd rather see McCain, Romney, Paul and maybe undead Reagan again before Huckabee.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins;421817[B

]how do you know this[/B] ? do you live in iraq, do you work for the iraq government , are you involved in the meetings between our government and the iraq government ? please don't just tell me that you heard it or read it somewhere.

if it was that urgent, would they have taken a 2 week break in the middle of the summer? those guys enjoying a summer vacation while our troops fought, and some died, for that piece of shit country. that's how i know

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by dmek25

if it was that urgent, would they have taken a 2 week break in the middle of the summer? those guys enjoying a summer vacation while our troops fought, and some died, for that piece of shit country. that's how i know

I don't think it's fair to saying the Iraqis are getting a free ride. An awful lot of Iraqis (or worse, their families) have been killed for working with the National Government, police, or U.S. forces. Just as Bush was being unrealistic for expecting us to be greeted with flowers by most Iraqis, many members of the anti-war crowd are being unrealistic in expecting there to be such rapid political progress.

To me, the "free ride" talk is purely political and it is reminiscent of the GOP talking about welfare moms. It's not useful or accurate.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

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I can't wait till that generation dies out. (Not the people. More so that uber southern conservative thinking). I'm ready for some more progression, not regression.

The notion that the ideas you don't like will magically disappear is one of the main reasons your side can never maintain any momentum. You have to engage opposing viewpoints with vigorous argument. You can't wish them away.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The notion that the ideas you don't like will magically disappear is one of the main reasons your side can never maintain any momentum. You have to engage opposing viewpoints with vigorous argument. You can't wish them away.

you can always claim your not a christian, if you don't agree with them. right now , according to you, there are 2 parties. the ultra conservatives, and the very liberals. no in between. that's one reason people like you hate John McCain. he has showed the ability to break down party affiliates, and try to work towards a common goal. for some reason, that really rubs you the wrong way. working towards whats best for America, as opposed to whats best for my party, should be how its done. but Mr Bush strictly followed his party's agenda, and its put us in one helluva mess, don't you think?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by dmek25

you can always claim your not a christian, if you don't agree with them. right now , according to you, there are 2 parties. the ultra conservatives, and the very liberals. no in between. that's one reason people like you hate John McCain. he has showed the ability to break down party affiliates, and try to work towards a common goal. for some reason, that really rubs you the wrong way. working towards whats best for America, as opposed to whats best for my party, should be how its done. but Mr Bush strictly followed his party's agenda, and its put us in one helluva mess, don't you think?

I have no problem with John McCain. I prefer a second-rate Fireman to first-rate arsonist.

As for the idea that I believe in no "in between", guilty as charged. I am not discomfited, as so many on the left seem to be, by defending my ideas or engaging opposing viewpoints in vigorous debate. This is the very essence of democracy. When people express a desire to "move beyond politics", it is generally because they find dissent to be an annoyance and can't be bothered to make their case in an organized and reasoned manner.

Furthermore what really "rubs me the wrong way" is poor grammar. Sentence fragments, dangling participles, and slovenly punctuation greatly undermine your already weak position.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I have no problem with John McCain. I prefer a second-rate Fireman to first-rate arsonist.

As for the idea that I believe in no "in between", guilty as charged. I am not discomfited, as so many on the left seem to be, by defending my ideas or engaging opposing viewpoints in vigorous debate. This is the very essence of democracy. When people express a desire to "move beyond politics", it is generally because they find dissent to be an annoyance and can't be bothered to make their case in an organized and reasoned manner.

Furthermore what really "rubs me the wrong way" is poor grammar. Sentence fragments, dangling participles, and slovenly punctuation greatly undermine your already weak position.

sorry. next time ill try to do better, your highness( as i bow down)

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by dmek25

sorry. next time ill try to do better, your highness( as i bow down)

Do or do not. There is no try.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

God Huckabee is the most primitive type of person ever. He doesn't believe in anything. No gay marriage? Fine I can live with that. But don't take away the civil unions. I think if he had his way he'd probably just segregate the USA all over again. And then try his hardest to erase the line between church and state. And shit, that's blurred already. Not a Christian? Well you will be if Huckabee gets in the White House. Which he won't thank God.

I can't wait till that generation dies out. (Not the people. More so that uber southern conservative thinking). I'm ready for some more progression, not regression.

I could bitch about Huckabee all day. I'd rather see McCain, Romney, Paul and maybe undead Reagan again before Huckabee.

I've seen you post several things along these lines. IMO, its totally uncalled for. It is a claim that should be proved with facts or evidence. Otherwise, it is simply disgusting FUD that does not belong here.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I can't wait till that generation dies out. (Not the people. More so that uber southern conservative thinking). I'm ready for some more progression, not regression.

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oh, you mean the kind of thinking that is pretty much the backbone of the constitution. yea, your right, lets get away from that kind of thinking:smashfrea

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

oh, you mean the kind of thinking that is pretty much the backbone of the constitution. yea, your right, lets get away from that kind of thinking:smashfrea

what exactly does gay marriage, and segregation have to do with the constitution? that's pretty much what dynamite is complaining about. ( although im not sure where she got the segregation thing from?)

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by dmek25

what exactly does gay marriage, and segregation have to do with the constitution? that's pretty much what dynamite is complaining about. ( although im not sure where she got the segregation thing from?)

Because of the fact Huckabee is a backwoods preacher man. I just feel like this guy is the typical, "I'm okay with everyone until I get in office and screw everyone over" type of guy.

Personally, I don't really have much of a problem with Republicans EXCEPT him.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I've seen you post several things along these lines. IMO, its totally uncalled for. It is a claim that should be proved with facts or evidence. Otherwise, it is simply disgusting FUD that does not belong here.

It's called an opinion, one of which you don't have to agree with nor read. If you have a problem with my opinions you have the right to verbally disagree or not respond at all. But not tell me that it doesn't belong here. I don't have to justify my feelings at all to anyone. Especially someone I don't know.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The notion that the ideas you don't like will magically disappear is one of the main reasons your side can never maintain any momentum. You have to engage opposing viewpoints with vigorous argument. You can't wish them away.

True. But I can't say I don't get discouraged when my arguments fall on deaf ears.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Because of the fact Huckabee is a backwoods preacher man. I just feel like this guy is the typical, "I'm okay with everyone until I get in office and screw everyone over" type of guy.

Personally, I don't really have much of a problem with Republicans EXCEPT him.

Dynamite, you shouldn't use terms like "because of the fact" and then defend yourself by saying you're expressing an opinion.