Do you think Madden 08 sucks

DynamiteRave · 02-15-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm going to have to buy me a damn Dreamcast for this!

I know people enjoy challenges and that's great, but I play to win baby!

Honestly, I think Guitar Hero is the only game I've ever played on Expert in my life.

Haha, if you're serious (which you aren't) I have a Dreamcast I'd love to get rid of! (Along with a PS first generation, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn and N64)

GTripp0012 · 02-15-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

GTripp, not being able to see the flats is horrible. Last gen Madden had adjustable view options, which this year's game does not.

My favorite part is when I have Cooley running an 8 yard out from the TE position, and I have to roll towards him to make sure the corner isn't sitting there--and it isn't...because he f'ing blitzed and I rolled right into him.

That's quality.

EternalEnigma21 · 02-15-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

My favorite part is when I have Cooley running an 8 yard out from the TE position, and I have to roll towards him to make sure the corner isn't sitting there--and it isn't...because he f'ing blitzed and I rolled right into him.

That's quality.

i know... well timed corner blitzes can really devistate guys who roll out a lot.

DynamiteRave · 02-15-2008, 11:18 PM

I dunno what's with players stats not getting better and if they do it takes forever. Or if they get better, their weapon stats don't change? Like I can't make my pass/run blockers any better.

The only kind of visible changes I see is always in the TE, WR and RB. I used Eli Manning on my fantasy team (along with a bunch of HOF players) for almost 8 seasons and his stats changed maybe about --- that much. Whats with that?

JGisLordOfTheRings · 02-16-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

My favorite part is when I have Cooley running an 8 yard out from the TE position, and I have to roll towards him to make sure the corner isn't sitting there--and it isn't...because he f'ing blitzed and I rolled right into him.

That's quality.

I f-ing hate that. I traded Campbell and a pick for Vince Young cuz his stats are good but even then, the game loves to F you.

I shoulda been called "Madden '0Rape" instead of Madden 08

mooby · 02-21-2008, 03:40 AM

I have a big problem with franchise mode, it sucks to the extreme. Before I begin let me just say that I play on All-Pro, in past versions I liked it the most because it's not as hard as All Madden but it's not as easy as the normal. I'm 3 seasons in in my new franchise with the Skins and I am the only team that resigns my players to deals longer than 3 years. I looked at every other franchise in the game, and all of them had no more than 4 guys signed to deals longer than 3 years, compared to 15 of my guys who had a deal longer than 3 years. Anytime a team signs a player that wasn't an original 1st round draft pick by them the deal is for 3 years or less, and the turnover in the free agent market is crazy, I estimate that 75 percent of all the players in madden hit the free agent market after their deal is up compared to 25 percent of the players in real life.

And some of it's just stupid. For example, both Carson Palmer's and Philip Rivers' contracts expired in the same year, and Palmer went to San Diego through free agency (3 year deal, go figure) while Rivers went to Cincinnati through free agency (do I even need to say it, 3 year deal). As for the 1-4 guys on each team that have a deal longer than 3 years, every single one of them was a draft pick in the first round by the team that currently has them. It is so unrealistic and stupid it's crazy.

And another gripe I have is that some franchises do things the exact opposite of the way they would in real life. The Cowboys for instance, build by the draft and add a few key parts through free agency, but in the game, they sign like 20 mediocre free agents to 3 year deals and all their drafted players once their deals are up they don't resign them. In 3 seasons they've gone from being one of the top franchises to having everyone but 4 players have a rating between 65-80, and one of those four players is Mat McBriar, and the only reason he's still on the team is cuz his deal hasn't expired yet. Every team in the league only resigns like 25 percent of its' about to be free agents, and they only resign them to 3 year deals anyways and bring in a bunch of other players for 3 year deals as well.

Overall each year the quality of the players in the league declines, most of the draft picks end up being busts and then they get cut and go to another team where they continue to decline. I'd just like to see each team have more players progress, I'm the only team that actually has players progress from year to year, all the other teams have like 1 or 2 players that progress very little from year to year.

And my last gripe is about the stats. My stats are excellent, mainly because it's so easy to play when 3 quarters of the league is shit. But quarterbacks don't put up good stats at all, usually there's like 1 quarterback that throws above 25 touchdown passes and even guys like Brady and Manning put up average stats. And I hate the running game, mainly because the best running backs in the league average about 2000-2500 yards when they are healthy for the entire season, and they also usually have somewhere between 400 and 500 carries for one season, which is entirely unrealistic.

Overall EA dropped the ball on Madden this year and I don't even know if I'm gonna want to buy it for next gen when it comes out in August because it sounds like a lot of people have issues with the next gen versions as well. And this is the last time (I hope) to be bitching about this game because eventually it's not gonna be worth buying it

That Guy · 02-21-2008, 04:32 AM

all madden still can't handle scrambling QBs. 400-800 yards is pretty easy (Accel clock, etc)... can't handle angled routed and flats and swing routes with a QB (basically making an option type deal) aren't dealt with well at all... at least the spin move doesn't guarantee a touchdown every time you run like in 04.

mooby · 02-21-2008, 05:04 AM

That reminds me, I'm tired of seeing Vince Young put up 1500+ rushing yards every season. Ridiculous.

djnemo65 · 02-21-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

all madden still can't handle scrambling QBs. 400-800 yards is pretty easy (Accel clock, etc)... can't handle angled routed and flats and swing routes with a QB (basically making an option type deal) aren't dealt with well at all... at least the spin move doesn't guarantee a touchdown every time you run like in 04.

Wait, accelerated clock is back this year?

EXoffender · 02-21-2008, 11:05 AM

All-Madden. Nothing else.

That Guy · 02-22-2008, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Wait, accelerated clock is back this year?

never went away... i'm PC only.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 02-22-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bigm29

its still a very playable game and pretty addictive since i love football but do you guys find that madden 06 for reg xbox was much better than the new ones 360. Not so much with the gameplay but everything else as far as the depth in franchise mode. They have taken away everything and have slowly been building it back up. why cant they just keep all the cool stuff 06 had like substitutions and custom unis, better draft classes(08 drafts are pretty unrealistic) And BEING ABLE TO CHANGE A PERSONS POSITION. Like changing a cb to a s or just a rolb to a lolb without killing their overall. and also in season progression. so many dumb things with this game. 360 has so many good games so i know it gets better than this. Madden needs to be an elite game again.

I played up to Madden '07 on PS2 and got '08 on PS3. My son played '07 on the PS3. Same thing as XBox, the next gen games were rushed out and the gameplay sucks compared to the current-gen. I don't get to play much lately, but was pretty into Madden up thru '07. I'll give Madden another shot in '09, but if the gameplay doesn't significantly improve I'm probably done with it.

Redskin Warrior · 02-22-2008, 05:46 PM

Madden 08 on PS2 pretty good I have a PS3 but my son broke it so I have to get it fixed. I like the current gen better than the next generation.

jdlea · 02-22-2008, 09:28 PM

It's not as good as it has been, but by no means do I feel like it sucks. I play on All-Pro because I still like to win and I find that I throw a lot of picks, but it's because I make bad decisions, not because I get screwed.

I also haven't noticed the free agency, I went through 15 years and only a few key players hit the free agent market. I couldn't even add quality depth through free agency, some years were brutal.

I just don't have the same gripe as everyone else.

apbaball · 03-14-2008, 02:30 PM

I gave up Madden and play Action PC football. Lots of leauges to play live online against other guys as opposed to playing the computer. It will also give you extremely accurate results if you replay the season.

02-15-2008, 11:18 PM	#19
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks I dunno what's with players stats not getting better and if they do it takes forever. Or if they get better, their weapon stats don't change? Like I can't make my pass/run blockers any better. The only kind of visible changes I see is always in the TE, WR and RB. I used Eli Manning on my fantasy team (along with a bunch of HOF players) for almost 8 seasons and his stats changed maybe about --- that much. Whats with that? __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

02-21-2008, 03:40 AM	#21
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks I have a big problem with franchise mode, it sucks to the extreme. Before I begin let me just say that I play on All-Pro, in past versions I liked it the most because it's not as hard as All Madden but it's not as easy as the normal. I'm 3 seasons in in my new franchise with the Skins and I am the only team that resigns my players to deals longer than 3 years. I looked at every other franchise in the game, and all of them had no more than 4 guys signed to deals longer than 3 years, compared to 15 of my guys who had a deal longer than 3 years. Anytime a team signs a player that wasn't an original 1st round draft pick by them the deal is for 3 years or less, and the turnover in the free agent market is crazy, I estimate that 75 percent of all the players in madden hit the free agent market after their deal is up compared to 25 percent of the players in real life. And some of it's just stupid. For example, both Carson Palmer's and Philip Rivers' contracts expired in the same year, and Palmer went to San Diego through free agency (3 year deal, go figure) while Rivers went to Cincinnati through free agency (do I even need to say it, 3 year deal). As for the 1-4 guys on each team that have a deal longer than 3 years, every single one of them was a draft pick in the first round by the team that currently has them. It is so unrealistic and stupid it's crazy. And another gripe I have is that some franchises do things the exact opposite of the way they would in real life. The Cowboys for instance, build by the draft and add a few key parts through free agency, but in the game, they sign like 20 mediocre free agents to 3 year deals and all their drafted players once their deals are up they don't resign them. In 3 seasons they've gone from being one of the top franchises to having everyone but 4 players have a rating between 65-80, and one of those four players is Mat McBriar, and the only reason he's still on the team is cuz his deal hasn't expired yet. Every team in the league only resigns like 25 percent of its' about to be free agents, and they only resign them to 3 year deals anyways and bring in a bunch of other players for 3 year deals as well. Overall each year the quality of the players in the league declines, most of the draft picks end up being busts and then they get cut and go to another team where they continue to decline. I'd just like to see each team have more players progress, I'm the only team that actually has players progress from year to year, all the other teams have like 1 or 2 players that progress very little from year to year. And my last gripe is about the stats. My stats are excellent, mainly because it's so easy to play when 3 quarters of the league is shit. But quarterbacks don't put up good stats at all, usually there's like 1 quarterback that throws above 25 touchdown passes and even guys like Brady and Manning put up average stats. And I hate the running game, mainly because the best running backs in the league average about 2000-2500 yards when they are healthy for the entire season, and they also usually have somewhere between 400 and 500 carries for one season, which is entirely unrealistic. Overall EA dropped the ball on Madden this year and I don't even know if I'm gonna want to buy it for next gen when it comes out in August because it sounds like a lot of people have issues with the next gen versions as well. And this is the last time (I hope) to be bitching about this game because eventually it's not gonna be worth buying it __________________ Hail to the Football Team

02-21-2008, 04:32 AM	#22
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks all madden still can't handle scrambling QBs. 400-800 yards is pretty easy (Accel clock, etc)... can't handle angled routed and flats and swing routes with a QB (basically making an option type deal) aren't dealt with well at all... at least the spin move doesn't guarantee a touchdown every time you run like in 04.

02-21-2008, 05:04 AM	#23
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks That reminds me, I'm tired of seeing Vince Young put up 1500+ rushing yards every season. Ridiculous. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

02-21-2008, 11:05 AM	#25
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks All-Madden. Nothing else.

02-22-2008, 09:28 PM	#29
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks It's not as good as it has been, but by no means do I feel like it sucks. I play on All-Pro because I still like to win and I find that I throw a lot of picks, but it's because I make bad decisions, not because I get screwed. I also haven't noticed the free agency, I went through 15 years and only a few key players hit the free agent market. I couldn't even add quality depth through free agency, some years were brutal. I just don't have the same gripe as everyone else.

03-14-2008, 02:30 PM	#30
apbaball Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12	Re: Do you think Madden 08 sucks I gave up Madden and play Action PC football. Lots of leauges to play live online against other guys as opposed to playing the computer. It will also give you extremely accurate results if you replay the season.

Do you think Madden 08 sucks

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