Jon Jansen Restructures

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Right now, Cartwright is a free agent, thus resigning him would be a hit to our cap figures. Signing him would move us further into the red.

Right now, the 51st man on our team counts $370K against the cap. For simplicity's sake, let's say we resign Rock for a one year deal worth $1.0 million. His signing would bump the 51st man out of the top 51, reducing our cap by $370K. He would then be added at $1.0 million. So the net effect of signing him, in this example, would be a hit of $630K.

Obviously if he signs with us for more money than that, the hit would be worse.

Rumors from JLC on his blog have indicated that the Skins may let him walk. Provided that they have a decent fallback option for kick returning and special teams, this could be a decent move. Our 3rd RB doesn't see the field often, so seeing him leave from a RB standpoint is really no big deal. But the staff will need to be cognizant of replacing his special teams leadership if they decide to let him go.

Do you agree with this move?

Certainly, the Skins can use the extra cap dollars right now as this will likely be used to release Lloyd with, but the trade off is $1 million more guarenteed to Jansen in each of the next 3 seasons (on top of the 2.25 million we were already giving him), and at least one more year of not being able to get away from him.

I guess were were going to handcuff ourselves somewhere, but I'm not sure that this was the right contract to do it with.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Do you agree with this move?

Certainly, the Skins can use the extra cap dollars right now as this will likely be used to release Lloyd with, but the trade off is $1 million more guarenteed to Jansen in each of the next 3 seasons (on top of the 2.25 million we were already giving him), and at least one more year of not being able to get away from him.

I guess were were going to handcuff ourselves somewhere, but I'm not sure that this was the right contract to do it with.

Yeah I agree with it, primarily because I still think Jansen is a stud. People are quick to rag on him, but I don't see the logic.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I agree with it, primarily because I still think Jansen is a stud. People are quick to rag on him, but I don't see the logic.

Can he be a stud two years from now, when we are guarenteeing him almost 3.5 million plus a 6 million base salary?

Maybe, but he's going to have to stay on the field andhealthy.

[ChillWill]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I agree with it, primarily because I still think Jansen is a stud. People are quick to rag on him, but I don't see the logic.

I would not caategorize Jansen as a stud anymore. His skills and technique have been on the decline for the last 3 years. He may be a better fit at Guard.