Zorn and Skins to pursue D. J. Hackett

[Monkeydad]

The player rep for D.J. Hackett, whose client has not made any free agent visits, expects the Titans and Redskins to pursue Hackett this week.

"(The Titans) told us Friday they would be in touch with us this week," the agent said. "We were told the same thing by the Redskins, that they would be in touch with us. We are obviously not panicking by any stretch."


Source: Titans agree with Crumpler on 2-year deal | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean




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I'd love to see him come in as our #3. He has big play potential and obviously plays well for Zorn already.

Discuss.

[DGreene28]

Don't overpay for him!

[Joe Ribbs BBQ]

I would like to see Hackett before Bryant Johnson, just my .02

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by Joe Ribbs BBQ

I would like to see Hackett before Bryant Johnson, just my .02

Same here, I just hope they do not overpay for him. Hackett's stats have been mediocre in addition his history of injuries. In the games he did play in last year he put up some nice numbers but if he misses half a season he will be of little help to the Redskins.

It is possible, with a change of scenery, Hackett has the potential to become a breakout star ala Santana Moss or he could be a bust like Brandon Lloyd.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bishop Hammer

It is possible, with a change of scenery, Hackett has the potential to become a breakout star ala Santana Moss or he could be a bust like Brandon Lloyd.

Hackett/Lloyd is a poor comparison because they've had about as different a beginning to their respective careers as is possible.

I think you make a good point though in that Hackett has great per play production, but it's very hard to compare his production in Seattle to the incumbent guys to see where they are. He may only turn out to be the third receiver once we get him in here, and we have to offer him a contract with that fact in mind.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hackett/Lloyd is a poor comparison because they've had about as different a beginning to their respective careers as is possible.

I think you make a good point though in that Hackett has great per play production, but it's very hard to compare his production in Seattle to the incumbent guys to see where they are. He may only turn out to be the third receiver once we get him in here, and we have to offer him a contract with that fact in mind.

Do you feel like he's gonna land here, if so why? We did offer him a contract and he passed on it, and off to Tampa he went for his next interview. From all report's after Tampa, then comes Carolina.

IMO I would have to consider him a long shot at this point. I would think Tampa has the money and doesn't mind overspending. Just my guess, my bet right now would be leaning toward Tampa landing D.J.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Do you feel like he's gonna land here, if so why? We did offer him a contract and he passed on it, and off to Tampa he went for his next interview. From all report's after Tampa, then comes Carolina.

IMO I would have to consider him a long shot at this point. I would think Tampa has the money and doesn't mind overspending. Just my guess, my bet right now would be leaning toward Tampa landing D.J.

I'd give it about a 25% chance right now. Not very good odds.

Still some team is going to get him, and this is who Hackett is: he's established himself as a non-scrub, but Washington isn't exactly a place that is short on WR depth. If he progresses he may shoot to the top of the depth chart here, but he also may damn himself to obscurity here if he can't push Moss out of the way as the non-Cooley go to guy.

[MonkFan4Life]

And what would be considered overpayment ? I'm not attacking you or anything but just asking. What would you, or anyone consider overpayment ?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

And what would be considered overpayment ? I'm not attacking you or anything but just asking. What would you, or anyone consider overpayment ?

Anything more than Lloyd or Randle El got ($10 million guaranteed). Even that might be a little high.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

And what would be considered overpayment ? I'm not attacking you or anything but just asking. What would you, or anyone consider overpayment ?

Not sure on a figure, I would trust what people who's opinions I respect say about that one. I like Hackett, but I'm in love with James Hardy right now with our 1st round pick. Not a popular opinion right now but it's mine.

But if Zorn likes Hackett and wants him then the skins should go get him, sure he knows what DJ has better then any option out there. I'm looking at all the outrageous money flying around the league right now and hoping we don't get burned in a sellers market.

Between Hackett and Johnson though? Def Hackett without question

[GMScud]

I'm torn between Hackett and Bryant Johnson. When Boldin was hurt last season, Johnson stepped in and played great. He's 6-3 215, only 26, and a 1st round talent. Plus he's only missed 3 games total in his 5 year career.

Hackett is slightly smaller at 6-2 208. He and Johnson are the same age, although Johnson has far more experience.

Despite only being 4 months apart in age, Johnson has played in 77 games, has 210 catches for almost 2700 yards and 9tds, while Hackett has only played in only 27 games. Although despite playing in 50 less games, he has as many TDs as Johnson, and his yards and catches per game numbers are better, plus he knows Zorn's stuff.

This is a tough call. I think Bryant Johnson is the more durable, more talented player who has been buried behind two pro-bowlers in Arizona. Hackett is probably the safer play though.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'm torn between Hackett and Bryant Johnson. When Boldin was hurt last season, Johnson stepped in and played great. He's 6-3 215, only 26, and a 1st round talent. Plus he's only missed 3 games total in his 5 year career.

Hackett is slightly smaller at 6-2 208. He and Johnson are the same age, although Johnson has far more experience.

Despite only being 4 months apart in age, Johnson has played in 77 games, has 210 catches for almost 2700 yards and 9tds, while Hackett has only played in only 27 games. Although despite playing in 50 less games, he has as many TDs as Johnson, and his yards and catches per game numbers are better, plus he knows Zorn's stuff.

This is a tough call. I think Bryant Johnson is the more durable, more talented player who has been buried behind two pro-bowlers in Arizona. Hackett is probably the safer play though.

I see people saying that but looking at what he actually did I'm not very impressed. Here is what he did when he started:

Pit: 4-40
Stl: 6-80
Car: 4-29
Cle: 6-56-1
Sea: 1-5-1
No: 2-35
Atl: 3-46

Pretty ho-hum numbers to me.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I see people saying that but looking at what he actually did I'm not very impressed. Here is what he did when he started:

Pit: 4-40
Stl: 6-80
Car: 4-29
Cle: 6-56-1
Sea: 1-5-1
No: 2-35
Atl: 3-46

Pretty ho-hum numbers to me.

Keep in mind he was the #2 WR during all of those games, because either Boldin or Fitz was always healthy and occupying the #1 position. Those are decent #2 WR numbers.

If anybody thinks they're getting a stud #1 WR with either Hackett (big games, but inconsistent) or Johnson (no big games, but consistent) then they're wrong. So you won't see better than #2 WR numbers from either of these guys.

Likewise, they would get paid like #2s: $12 million guaranteed, 6 years, $35 million total

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Keep in mind he was the #2 WR during all of those games, because either Boldin or Fitz was always healthy and occupying the #1 position. Those are decent #2 WR numbers.

If anybody thinks they're getting a stud #1 WR with either Hackett (big games, but inconsistent) or Johnson (no big games, but consistent) then they're wrong. So you won't see better than #2 WR numbers from either of these guys.

Likewise, they would get paid like #2s: $12 million guaranteed, 6 years, $35 million total

Actually Boldin and Fitz sat out the Cleveland game, and both of them battled injuries most of the year and weren't 100% even when starting.

Johnson hasn't done much over the course of his career to show that he's capable of stepping in and being a big time guy, while Hackett has proved he's capable.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Actually Boldin and Fitz sat out the Cleveland game, and both of them battled injuries most of the year and weren't 100% even when starting.

Johnson hasn't done much over the course of his career to show that he's capable of stepping in and being a big time guy, while Hackett has proved he's capable.

I don't know about that.

Hackett missed all but 6 games last year. In the two years before that, he also didn't manage to play a full season despite being used much more sparingly than he was last season.

He's had a few huge games. I see a few over 100 yard games on his resume. Of course he had Matt Hasselbeck throwing to him instead of the very green Matt Leinart and the very old Kurt Warner.

He toasted us for 101 yards on 6 catches in our playoff game against Seattle. But then when he went up against Al Harris and Charles Woodson, he was held to 2 catches for 15 yards against the Pack in the divisional round. That's indicative of his all-or-nothing kind of play. He's either way up or way down.

I'm of the mindset we need someone pretty consistent to give us a big target in the red zone, first and foremost, and help us move the chains. I think we've already got two big play guys.

For the record, and all that said, I'd still prefer Hackett simply because he knows Zorn and will know the playbook, which is huge when it comes to making an immediate impact. But I don't see a huge difference between him and Bryant Johnson from a talent perspective. We should get Hackett because of the familiarity with our coach, but I won't be disappointed with Bryant Johnson.