What Has Happened to the Redskins' Fan Base?

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

See.. your wrong

As Smoot said... he purchased the team in May of 99... I will guarantee once his $$ was in... then the buck stopped with him:

Daniel Snyder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now... how knowledgeable do you look now (not that I am a Einstein... but I am not claiming to be).

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Whatever. Your orginal post said one playoff win since Snyder bought the team, and Redskin Rich called you out on it. Getting back to the original theme of this thread, the most ignorant fans are not necessarily the ones who lack knowledge it's the ones who aren't willing to gain any.

Okay, I got the dates and playoff win total wrong. I admit it. But, if you re-read my post, nowhere in there do I say that I, personally, know more than the average Redskins fan. I'm clearly quoting what other fans have said, what I've seen at games I've attended recently and how it, to me, appears to run counter to what announcers have said about the fan base in the past. There's no need to attack me here. We cheer for the same team.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by KB24

Okay, I got the dates and playoff win total wrong. I admit it. But, if you re-read my post, nowhere in there do I say that I, personally, know more than the average Redskins fan. I'm clearly quoting what other fans have said, what I've seen at games I've attended recently and how it, to me, appears to run counter to what announcers have said about the fan base in the past. There's no need to attack me here. We cheer for the same team.

Actually, this topic was started as someone claiming that the average Redskin fan doesn't know as much as they used to... and by you pointing that out to us, you are in fact saying that you know more than the current crop of fans.

Yes, with the spread of the public access via the internet, the people who do not know as much have a larger platform (as has been pointed out)... but your premise indicated that you know more than the current average fan base (or you would not have started this thread)....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

Actually, this topic was started as someone claiming that the average Redskin fan doesn't know as much as they used to... and by you pointing that out to us, you are in fact saying that you know more than the current crop of fans.

Yes, with the spread of the public access via the internet, the people who do not know as much have a larger platform (as has been pointed out)... but your premise indicated that you know more than the current average fan base (or you would not have started this thread)....

I think this may top your 1,000th post thread

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think this may top your 1,000th post thread

Oh... please don't take that from me... I think that thread should go down in history.... and besides... I didn't start this one... just pointing out some facts.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

Actually, this topic was started as someone claiming that the average Redskin fan doesn't know as much as they used to... and by you pointing that out to us, you are in fact saying that you know more than the current crop of fans.

Yes, with the spread of the public access via the internet, the people who do not know as much have a larger platform (as has been pointed out)... but your premise indicated that you know more than the current average fan base (or you would not have started this thread)....

Again, if you re-read my post, I NEVER said that I, personally, know more than the current fan base. I'm just sharing observations. I'm not trying to step on anyone toes and I'm not trying to say that I know more than anyone else out there.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by KB24

Again, if you re-read my post, I NEVER said that I, personally, know more than the current fan base. I'm just sharing observations. I'm not trying to step on anyone toes and I'm not trying to say that I know more than anyone else out there.

Actually... your original post said that some fans make you scratch your head... the entire overall theme was directed that you know more than these people... which is why you started the thread... would you like my attorney Mr. SmootSmack and myself to disect your entire 1st post for you???

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KB24

Again, if you re-read my post, I NEVER said that I, personally, know more than the current fan base. I'm just sharing observations. I'm not trying to step on anyone toes and I'm not trying to say that I know more than anyone else out there.

But you questioned the fan base as a whole, and by doing that you are insinuating that you are more knowledgeable, and then you proceed to botch some pretty basic facts.

Sorry but that's funny.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

But you questioned the fan base as a whole, and by doing that you are insinuating that you are more knowledgeable, and then you proceed to botch some pretty basic facts.

Sorry but that's funny.

At the very least he's insinuating that he's on the knowledgable side of the fence

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

Actually, this topic was started as someone claiming that the average Redskin fan doesn't know as much as they used to... and by you pointing that out to us, you are in fact saying that you know more than the current crop of fans.

Yes, with the spread of the public access via the internet, the people who do not know as much have a larger platform (as has been pointed out)... but your premise indicated that you know more than the current average fan base (or you would not have started this thread)....

I didn't get the impression the OP was stating he knew more than the average fan. I took his points as his personal observations and nothing more. You can agree or disagree.

However, you guys got hung up on one miniscule mistake and ran with it. Like having one more playoff win in 10 years really makes a difference. He conceded that one specific point. You win. Good for you.

I have no problem calling out people when they make outrageous statements or assertions. I don't get the need for mocking people. Maybe you guys are just bored today.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I didn't get the impression the OP was stating he knew more than the average fan. I took his points as his personal observations and nothing more. You can agree or disagree.

However, you guys got hung up on one miniscule mistake and ran with it. Like having one more playoff win in 10 years really makes a difference. He conceded that one specific point. You win. Good for you.

I have no problem calling out people when they make outrageous statements or assertions. I don't get the need for mocking people. Maybe you guys are just bored today.

Well, he could have just said "Hey you know, you're right. I missed that. It's two wins, not one" and the response would have been much different. But instead he started spewing this bs about when Snyder "officially took over" instead of just owning up to his mistake right off the bat. It's like the people who say "We're so awful, we never keep our own players!!!" and then you point out guys like Betts, Sellers, Rock, Cooley, etc and they say "Yeah, well, let's see if they do it again this year and the next."

We've all made mistakes, been proven wrong, and corrected on more than one occassion. And the site is better because of it. But admitting fault seems to be a real problem for a lot of people. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times the whole point of a message board isn't really to let the world know how much knowledge you have but to get more knowledge out of it than when you first joined. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, it happens to all of us. It's why I started the whole "I Was Wrong When..." thread, so people wouldn't be so afraid to admit when they're wrong.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KB24

Okay, I got the dates and playoff win total wrong. I admit it. But, if you re-read my post, nowhere in there do I say that I, personally, know more than the average Redskins fan. I'm clearly quoting what other fans have said, what I've seen at games I've attended recently and how it, to me, appears to run counter to what announcers have said about the fan base in the past. There's no need to attack me here. We cheer for the same team.

This is almost comical now.