What Has Happened to the Redskins' Fan Base?

[KB24]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what were you trying to say then in your original post?

Just that a lot of Redskins fans want to do the wave in the fourth quarter of a close game when our offense is on the field, and don't seem to understand some of the basic rules and game-management issues that occur during a game. Again, I'm not saying that I'm an NFL encyclopedia. These are just observations I've made and, to me, they run counter the reputation of being "knowledgeable" fans.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And it gets worse...

The Redskins W/L record under Snyder is 68-76, not 70-79.

I got the 70-79 from an old Times article.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

We need a kicker and we should use our first round pick on one Either that or trade it for Payten Maning. and since we need a nother reciever for to be a endzone threat we should trade our second round pick for Mike Vrabel since he catches alot of touch downs.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And it gets worse...

The Redskins W/L record under Snyder is 68-76, not 70-79.

See... I didn't even think to check that fact....

I still like this paragraph:


I've also noticed fans asking silly questions on message boards -- questions that, in my opinion, a "knowledgeable" fan base would never ask. They've included, "Can we as a sixth-seeded team host a playoff game?" "Why was that play called a touchback?" "Why are they running the ball here (when there's less than two minutes left in the game, the opposition has no timeouts and you're trying to run the clock out)?"

Is the average football fan in general asking this question... or someone who is still learning the game?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KB24

I got the 70-79 from an old Times article.

Actually 70-79 is correct when counting in the playoffs.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

We need a kicker and we should use our first round pick on one Either that or trade it for Payten Maning. and since we need a nother reciever for to be a endzone threat we should trade our second round pick for Mike Vrabel since he catches alot of touch downs.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I didn't get the impression the OP was stating he knew more than the average fan. I took his points as his personal observations and nothing more. You can agree or disagree.

However, you guys got hung up on one miniscule mistake and ran with it. Like having one more playoff win in 10 years really makes a difference. He conceded that one specific point. You win. Good for you.

I have no problem calling out people when they make outrageous statements or assertions. I don't get the need for mocking people. Maybe you guys are just bored today.

Well, he could have just said "Hey you know, you're right. I missed that. It's two wins, not one" and the response would have been much different. But instead he started spewing this bs about when Snyder "officially took over" instead of just owning up to his mistake right off the bat. It's like the people who say "We're so awful, we never keep our own players!!!" and then you point out guys like Betts, Sellers, Rock, Cooley, etc and they say "Yeah, well, let's see if they do it again this year and the next."

We've all made mistakes, been proven wrong, and corrected on more than one occassion. And the site is better because of it. But admitting fault seems to be a real problem for a lot of people. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times the whole point of a message board isn't really to let the world know how much knowledge you have but to get more knowledge out of it than when you first joined. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, it happens to all of us. It's why I started the whole "I Was Wrong When..." thread, so people wouldn't be so afraid to admit when they're wrong.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KB24

Just that a lot of Redskins fans want to do the wave in the fourth quarter of a close game when our offense is on the field, and don't seem to understand some of the basic rules and game-management issues that occur during a game. Again, I'm not saying that I'm an NFL encyclopedia. These are just observations I've made and, to me, they run counter the reputation of being "knowledgeable" fans.

Is this thread then more about "stadium etiquette"?

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Actually 70-79 is correct when counting in the playoffs.

Well, I'm glad I something right here!

[KB24]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, he could have just said "Hey you know, you're right. I missed that. It's two wins, not one" and the response would have been much different. But instead he started spewing this bs about when Snyder "officially took over" instead of just owning up to his mistake right off the bat. It's like the people who say "We're so awful, we never keep our own players!!!" and then you point out guys like Betts, Sellers, Rock, Cooley, etc and they say "Yeah, well, let's see if they do it again this year and the next."

We've all made mistakes, been proven wrong, and corrected on more than one occassion. And the site is better because of it. But admitting fault seems to be a real problem for a lot of people. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times the whole point of a message board isn't really to let the world know how much knowledge you have but to get more knowledge out of it than when you first joined. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, it happens to all of us. It's why I started the whole "I Was Wrong When..." thread, so people wouldn't be so afraid to admit when they're wrong.

I later admitted that I got the dates wrong.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is this thread then more about "stadium etiquette"?

It's a combination of that and just observations I've made.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

In general the internet allows more people to have a voice than ever before. The majority of fans in the 80's could have been a bunch of slack jawed yolkles but you hardly ever got to hear them because they could only talk with other idiots in the room or call into to the radio after the game. Now we have a chance to read every little asinine thought that enters someone's mind as soon as they think it up.
I think the fan base for every team seems to have been dumbed down because of this.
Plus, if want to hear a bunch of idiots trying to talk about football you should come up here to Baltimore and take a listen to the majority of ravens fans.

I was also going to say the internet happened.

The internet has enabled stupid people worldwide to be noticed.

[SmootSmack]

Look KB, I'm not trying to knock you. I'm just saying, trust me on this, you'll earn a lot more respect in the long run here if you stay honest and humble.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Look KB, I'm not trying to knock you. I'm just saying, trust me on this, you'll earn a lot more respect in the long run here if you stay honest and humble.

Duly noted. And I'm sorry. It wasn't my intent to act like an Einstein here. I was making some observations and maybe I didn't express them the way I should have.

[Redskin Rich]

Originally Posted by KB24

Duly noted. And I'm sorry. It wasn't my intent to act like an Einstein here. I was making some observations and maybe I didn't express them the way I should have.

KB... welcome to the board... we all have interesting posts from time to time... as Smoot pointed out about me and my 1,000 post thread.....It's all meant in good fun.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by Redskin Rich

KB... welcome to the board... we all have interesting posts from time to time... as Smoot pointed out about me and my 1,000 post thread.....It's all meant in good fun.

Thank you. I want to be a positive contributor here and I definitely DO NOT want to cause problems or fight anyone.