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Old 04-24-2008, 08:57 AM   #1
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Re: Breaking News: Cowboys Agree to Send 4th Rounder to Titans for Pac Man

How can you guys be so happy about this? Im going to go on record and probably staying in the minority on this.

The cowboys took zero risk, a late round pick for a top corner...

Lets just hope he doestn get reinstated (if he doesnt they get their pick back) because we are going to need help on offense with him playing against us twice a year. Id rather he went to the Bengals and hung out with his inmates there. The guy call play, hes a great returner...

Lets just hope you all are right and he destroys that team. I think hes tryign to make a point of coming back strong and prove everyone wrong. hes been trying to come back and prove himself for a while now but they wotn let him back
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They can have him!! You know why?

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Old 04-24-2008, 09:35 AM   #3
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How can you guys be so happy about this? Im going to go on record and probably staying in the minority on this.

The cowboys took zero risk, a late round pick for a top corner...

Lets just hope he doestn get reinstated (if he doesnt they get their pick back) because we are going to need help on offense with him playing against us twice a year. Id rather he went to the Bengals and hung out with his inmates there. The guy call play, hes a great returner...

Lets just hope you all are right and he destroys that team. I think hes tryign to make a point of coming back strong and prove everyone wrong. hes been trying to come back and prove himself for a while now but they wotn let him back
I wouldn't say the cowboys took zero risk. If he does get reinstated there is no way he plays a full season without another incident. That man is a idiot. He will be back in the strip clubs the day after he is reinstated "makin it rain". He might have all the talent of a top CB in this league, but his stupidity out ways his talent. I give him 3 games this season if he is reinstated, maybe 4.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:01 AM   #4
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I wouldn't say the cowboys took zero risk. If he does get reinstated there is no way he plays a full season without another incident. That man is a idiot. He will be back in the strip clubs the day after he is reinstated "makin it rain". He might have all the talent of a top CB in this league, but his stupidity out ways his talent. I give him 3 games this season if he is reinstated, maybe 4.
Well that just about what everyone said when they made the deal with TO. I'm sure if he gets reinstated Jones will have his contracted worded so they can dump him if he has any more issues and I would bet it will have a clause about strip clubs. Jones is not dumb and is really taking very little risk from what I have seen at this point.
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Well that just about what everyone said when they made the deal with TO. I'm sure if he gets reinstated Jones will have his contracted worded so they can dump him if he has any more issues and I would bet it will have a clause about strip clubs. Jones is not dumb and is really taking very little risk from what I have seen at this point.
I'm sure that contractually it's a low risk. But could you imagine the mass hysteria on this board if the Redskins had made this move?
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I'm sure that contractually it's a low risk. But could you imagine the mass hysteria on this board if the Redskins had made this move?
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Well that just about what everyone said when they made the deal with TO. I'm sure if he gets reinstated Jones will have his contracted worded so they can dump him if he has any more issues and I would bet it will have a clause about strip clubs. Jones is not dumb and is really taking very little risk from what I have seen at this point.
Jones is not dumb? Taking a duffel bag of money to a strip club throwin it in the air then bang the stripers head on the stage when she goes to grab it isn't a smart move. Going to a strip club the night before you meet with the commissioner of the NFL and lying to him to his face when asked about it is pretty dumb. Paying the gunman 15,000 to stay quite and not mention any of this to the authorities isn't dumb?
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Re: Breaking News: Cowboys Agree to Send 4th Rounder to Titans for Pac Man

or were talkin about jerry jones.....that would make more sense


Pacman Jones = Dumb
Jerry Jones = Not dumb but not the smartest man in the world by any means
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How can you guys be so happy about this? Im going to go on record and probably staying in the minority on this.

The cowboys took zero risk, a late round pick for a top corner...

Lets just hope he doestn get reinstated (if he doesnt they get their pick back) because we are going to need help on offense with him playing against us twice a year. Id rather he went to the Bengals and hung out with his inmates there. The guy call play, hes a great returner...

Lets just hope you all are right and he destroys that team. I think hes tryign to make a point of coming back strong and prove everyone wrong. hes been trying to come back and prove himself for a while now but they wotn let him back
He's definitely not a top corner. Solid starter, but he's not one of the top 10 at his position, which is what I think of when someone says top player.
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How can you guys be so happy about this? Im going to go on record and probably staying in the minority on this.

The cowboys took zero risk, a late round pick for a top corner...

Lets just hope he doestn get reinstated (if he doesnt they get their pick back) because we are going to need help on offense with him playing against us twice a year. Id rather he went to the Bengals and hung out with his inmates there. The guy call play, hes a great returner...

Lets just hope you all are right and he destroys that team. I think hes tryign to make a point of coming back strong and prove everyone wrong. hes been trying to come back and prove himself for a while now but they wotn let him back
I'm w/you except for the zero risk part. They are taking on more risk than w/the avg. trade, but overall I certainly agree w/your point. The only way it really backfires for them is if he gets others in trouble or affects team morale. there were never any reports of that in Tenn., it was just pacman getting in trouble at clubs w/his homies.

So what if they lose a 4th round pick, they've drafted well in the past & can afford to gamble w/those picks. A 4th rounder for a legit man to man corner & dangerous punt returner is a bargain IF he comes back & can return to form (on field, not off).

They're obviously not worried about the pr aspect. Kind of funny, until a few years ago texas stadium was a dry stadium. Now you can buy a beer there and watch near cons on probation playing football!
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I'm w/you except for the zero risk part. They are taking on more risk than w/the avg. trade, but overall I certainly agree w/your point. The only way it really backfires for them is if he gets others in trouble or affects team morale. there were never any reports of that in Tenn., it was just pacman getting in trouble at clubs w/his homies.

So what if they lose a 4th round pick, they've drafted well in the past & can afford to gamble w/those picks. A 4th rounder for a legit man to man corner & dangerous punt returner is a bargain IF he comes back & can return to form (on field, not off).

They're obviously not worried about the pr aspect. Kind of funny, until a few years ago texas stadium was a dry stadium. Now you can buy a beer there and watch near cons on probation playing football!

If he doesnt play or gets in trouble again the Cowboys get the Titans 4th rounder in 2009 so it is basically no risk
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:03 PM   #12
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If he doesnt play or gets in trouble again the Cowboys get the Titans 4th rounder in 2009 so it is basically no risk
And you can bet it will be a "franchise friendly" contract as well. One loaded with caveats that will have little to no cap hit if Jones screws up again and is released.

Kind of like T.O.'s contract. When he signed it was still fresh in everyones mind the turmoil he caused in Philly. So even though Owens signed a 3 year deal, it was worded in such a way that it was essentially 3-one year deals, so if he raised havoc, Dallas could release him with zero cap hit.

The same will be done for Jones, where if he messes up, the contract will be worded so Dallas can release him without a cap hit.

This guy is a big risk, granted. But there is little reward without risk in anything.

But if he gets in trouble or does not get reinstated, Dallas has lost very little, just a 4th round pick in 2008. But if that happens they will get that 4th rounder back in 2009.

But look at the upside, if Jones plays and has his act together then they have legitimate depth at corner with Henry, Newman and Jones. Not to mention a pretty good return guy.

However Dallas has done pretty good with 4th rounders as of late. Marion Barber and Chris Canty were both 4th round picks and now both have the high tender on them.
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And you can bet it will be a "franchise friendly" contract as well. One loaded with caveats that will have little to no cap hit if Jones screws up again and is released.

Kind of like T.O.'s contract. When he signed it was still fresh in everyones mind the turmoil he caused in Philly. So even though Owens signed a 3 year deal, it was worded in such a way that it was essentially 3-one year deals, so if he raised havoc, Dallas could release him with zero cap hit.

The same will be done for Jones, where if he messes up, the contract will be worded so Dallas can release him without a cap hit.

This guy is a big risk, granted. But there is little reward without risk in anything.

But if he gets in trouble or does not get reinstated, Dallas has lost very little, just a 4th round pick in 2008. But if that happens they will get that 4th rounder back in 2009.

But look at the upside, if Jones plays and has his act together then they have legitimate depth at corner with Henry, Newman and Jones. Not to mention a pretty good return guy.

However Dallas has done pretty good with 4th rounders as of late. Marion Barber and Chris Canty were both 4th round picks and now both have the high tender on them.

I heard that he would get NO signing bonus when he signs the new contract with the Cowboys.
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