Around the NFL: Cowboys Extend Two; Schweigert Released

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SFGate: Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Breaking news: Raiders cut Schweigert

PFT reports that a Marion Barber extension is valued at 7 years and 45 million, which is Portis-type money. Risky, but if he stays healthy, he'll be worth it.

Terrence Newman got 6 years and 50 million with 22 guarenteed per Adam Schefter. Not quite Samuel money, but just a hair below which seems to be market value for a #1 corner these days.

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Atlanta Falcons | News | Falcons agree to terms with quarterback Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan just got a six year deal. With slots one and three signed, it shouldn't take long for Chris Long, and the rest will fall in to place. No holdouts necessary.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Atlanta Falcons | News | Falcons agree to terms with quarterback Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan just got a six year deal. With slots one and three signed, it shouldn't take long for Chris Long, and the rest will fall in to place. No holdouts necessary.

Ryan's deal was 6yrs $72M ($34.75M guaranteed) as the 3rd overall pick, and Long got 5yrs $57.75M ($30M guaranteed) as the #1. Won't that ruffle some feathers? I don't think the rest will just fall in to place when a guy two spots lower than Long got $13.25M more in max value and $4.75M more in guarantees. I think this could create some controversy, at least amongst the top half of the 1st round.

As far as Ryan's contract, it took Peyton Manning about 6 full seasons of dominance in the league before he got that kind of guaranteed money. The rookie pay structure is so flawed.

[SeanTaylor21]

I don't think that Marion Barber really deserved that much money, he hasn't really been a full time starter, he had some good numbers, but he hasn't ever been a full time back.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

For me, I think his numbers were skewed quite a bit. I think he was merely an average runner and didn't even think his numbers were that great.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me, I think his numbers were skewed quite a bit. I think he was merely an average runner and didn't even think his numbers were that great.

Didn't he have like -4 yards on like 10 carries against us?

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I would pick up schweigert

[GTripp0012]

I like Schweigert, and for the right price, he could help this team. He would actually play the run much better from the SS position that Doughty plays than the FS position that he played in Oakland.

He could cover the pass a lot better than Reed, but if he did sign here, he would probably still back Reed up.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I like Schweigert, and for the right price, he could help this team. He would actually play the run much better from the SS position that Doughty plays than the FS position that he played in Oakland.

He could cover the pass a lot better than Reed, but if he did sign here, he would probably still back Reed up.

I always thought of him as a Adam Archuleta Jr., not to good in coverage, miss tackles, and got beat out by some guy named Hiram Eugene, who didn't play a game the year before.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SeanTaylor21

I always thought of him as a Adam Archuleta Jr., not to good in coverage, miss tackles, and got beat out by some guy named Hiram Eugene, who didn't play a game the year before.

Arch would have been a great signing...for the right price.

If he was making 2 million a year instead of 6, no one would have cared if he wasnt good enough to start.

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We need another Safety, Doughty isin't gonna cut it, although Landry is so nasty on his own that if ST could do it with moderate help, why can't Landry?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by LandrySlice

We need another Safety, Doughty isin't gonna cut it, although Landry is so nasty on his own that if ST could do it with moderate help, why can't Landry?

Why is Doughty not going to cut it? If you watched the games, Doughty did pretty damn good. Now no one's going to mistake him for a pro bowler but the bottom line is the guy proved that he's a quality NFL starter, otherwise the team would have made a stronger push to add a safety. There was also a Landry-Doughty Strong Safety comparison that showed Doughty having comprable stats to Landry when the games they played SS were compared. On top of that Doughty started only 6 games yet he was one of the team leaders in tackles (6th best with 53).

I agree with you on Landry though. After watching games throughout the year as well as highlight tapes over the past week I have to say that Landry is probably the most violent player I've ever seen, and personally I love it.

As far as depth is concerned, the team has 3 rookies that could end up contributing. Moore was considered one of the best safety prospects in DI-AA along with Corey Lynch, Horton was a well respected safety prospect out of UCLA, and Justin Scott was highly regarded during his time at Purdue. Now Scott might be a long shot, but I feel like the team will come away with at least one guy that proves he belongs in the NFL and in all likelihood Moore is probably that guy, especially considering the sucess the team has had with 6th round picks (Golston, Blades, Doughty).

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Why is Doughty not going to cut it? If you watched the games, Doughty did pretty damn good. Now no one's going to mistake him for a pro bowler but the bottom line is the guy proved that he's a quality NFL starter, otherwise the team would have made a stronger push to add a safety. There was also a Landry-Doughty Strong Safety comparison that showed Doughty having comprable stats to Landry when the games they played SS were compared. On top of that Doughty started only 6 games yet he was one of the team leaders in tackles (6th best with 53).

I agree with you on Landry though. After watching games throughout the year as well as highlight tapes over the past week I have to say that Landry is probably the most violent player I've ever seen, and personally I love it.

As far as depth is concerned, the team has 3 rookies that could end up contributing. Moore was considered one of the best safety prospects in DI-AA along with Corey Lynch, Horton was a well respected safety prospect out of UCLA, and Justin Scott was highly regarded during his time at Purdue. Now Scott might be a long shot, but I feel like the team will come away with at least one guy that proves he belongs in the NFL and in all likelihood Moore is probably that guy, especially considering the sucess the team has had with 6th round picks (Golston, Blades, Doughty).

Justin Scott was released. As for Schweigert I wouldn't mind bringing him in for the right price, but I really think Moore/Horton are going to turn out to be pretty good players for us. Therefore I am not to concerned about Schweigert.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

SFGate: Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Breaking news: Raiders cut Schweigert

PFT reports that a Marion Barber extension is valued at 7 years and 45 million, which is Portis-type money. Risky, but if he stays healthy, he'll be worth it.

Terrence Newman got 6 years and 50 million with 22 guarenteed per Adam Schefter. Not quite Samuel money, but just a hair below which seems to be market value for a #1 corner these days.

I definitely think Barber is worth it. He's a TD machine. He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It was Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I definitely think Barber is worth it. He's a TD machine. He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It was Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.

Great points. I was going to mention the inflation factor, and its something that everyone has to consider in evaluating this deal.

It's a big risk for any Running back. Barbers first three years in Dallas look very similar to Portis' first two years in Denver, so he should be solid into his 30's. But if he gets hurt, and the risk of that is always there, that's a lot of money tied up in a player who isn't helping your team.