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Old 06-19-2008, 12:02 PM   #1
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

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Its because normal people don't have $100 dollar bills to throw away.

Look, I believe everyone is entitled to a good time as long as it doesn't break any laws, or hurts anyone. The guy went to Vegas. Not to sit on his ass in a hotel room and watch TV, but to go out and have fun. If this is his way of doing so, then so be it.

You are allowed to go out to clubs and do as you please without anyone harassing you because you aren't a target, a guy like him is. Does that take away from his right to spend money as he wishes and spray the crowd with Dom P? No.

Finally, I went to school in DC where shootings occurred at clubs on more than one occasion. Did that stop me from going out? No.

I think y'all are being to hard on the guy. Athletes go out to clubs and bars all the time, and incidents don't occur. J. Walk was unlucky, and I think its unecessary for you guys to say that these guys should stay home or stay away from dangerous places (where isn't dangerous nowadays?) so stuff like this won't happen
Let me ask you this. If you owned an NFL team would you invest 27- 30 mil. over 3 years on Javon Walker? I'm not saying you have to stay home. But I'm not investing in a guy that can't stay away from the nightclub scene.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:02 PM   #2
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

So the latest rumor is Javon Walker and Floyd Mayweather got into a Champaign spraying contest in Vegas. Things got of hand, and Walker got rolled by some of his boys. Story has it Mayweather himself didn't
re-arrange Walker's face but some of his flunkies may have.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:17 PM   #3
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Here's a clip.

Breitbart.tv » Pictures Show NFL Star Spraying Vegas Crowd With Champagne Prior to Assault
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:04 PM   #4
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

I don't think anyone is being hard on the guy. Times have changed. People are greedy.

Lesson 1: When going out don't take a lot of money.

Lesson 2: There is a reason people don't go out in swim suits. People don't like to get wet or ruin a nice out fit with Champaign.

Lesson 3: Don't go out alone and don't piss off your designated friend.

Lesson 4: If...If you have to take a large sum of money...don't flash it. It tells everyone your loaded and raises your chances of getting jumped.

Lesson 5: Always keep an eye on your back (and your friends)

Lesson 6: Don't wear expensive jewlery. (this should be #1 or #2)


Now if Mayweather was supposed to have his back and then allowed his posse to jump him would be kinda "Itty-Shay".
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:34 PM   #5
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

It's somewhat scary that some people believe that stupidity should be punished by a severe beatdown. That is kind of like saying people who don't use their seatbelts deserve to be ejected from their vehicles. Javon may have used poor judgment, but that doesn't mean he deserved to have his face smashed.
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:29 PM   #6
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It's somewhat scary that some people believe that stupidity should be punished by a severe beatdown. That is kind of like saying people who don't use their seatbelts deserve to be ejected from their vehicles. Javon may have used poor judgment, but that doesn't mean he deserved to have his face smashed.
I don't think anyone is saying he deserved the beatdown. The guy could've been killed. But like I said, you wouldn't see Jason Campbell spraying a nightclub crowd with Dom P. at 4am. Why would you spray a crowd of strangers with Dom P? I have some pretty expensive shirts and I wouldn't like that one bit. Now I wouldn't fight the guy or anything like that. But I could see someone getting very very upset about something like that.

I hope the guy is OK but Javon Walker has some serious growing up to do.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:58 PM   #7
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

I went to the link that was posted of the video of him squirting people down and I liked this story.

Laxative-Laced Cake Makes For Bad Senior Prank

They baked a cake for the teachers and put laxative in with the mix. The sad part is now they face criminal charges. Can't the school just scare the kids about not graduating or not letting them perticipate in their graduation instead of calling the cops.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:41 PM   #8
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

I think its a humanity issue. People become critics on certain issues once they aren't involved. So statements like, I don't feel sorry for him are used because they believe that athletes should use the example of one person in one incident to manipulate the way they run their lives.

Athletes are just like us, except they have a little bit more money. Don't hold them to a standard that you yourself don't uphold.

Example, how many car accidents have occurred on highways. Using y'alls logic, smart people shouldn't drive on highways, because people die there all the time.

Give the guy a break
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I think its a humanity issue. People become critics on certain issues once they aren't involved. So statements like, I don't feel sorry for him are used because they believe that athletes should use the example of one person in one incident to manipulate the way they run their lives.

Athletes are just like us, except they have a little bit more money. Don't hold them to a standard that you yourself don't uphold.

Example, how many car accidents have occurred on highways. Using y'alls logic, smart people shouldn't drive on highways, because people die there all the time.

Give the guy a break
Well...not saying I'm smart at all but I do try to avoid highways as much as possible only because of the number of vehicles on the highway. COMMON SENSE tells you that the more cars on the highway the better chance you have of getting into an accident.

Lets use your logic then. He should not have any problem walking into a biker bar and asking for a drink right? or walking into a gay bar and not getting hit on because it's not his fault for going into those places right or because he has a right as a citizen to go into those places.

Make no mistake...he was a victim. Some of us are saying that if he valued his money and his jewlery and his life he would not have:
1. been out all night. although it's his right to.
2. flashed his jewlery. Save it for a more upscale party.
3. SPRAYED PEOPLE WITH CHAMPAIGN. It kinda pisses people off.

Number three is what probably caused the beating. Yeah he was having fun with Mayweather but someone probably got sprayed that did not want to get sprayed and took it to another level.

You know it's funny. When your young you think you can defend yourself from anything until you find out you can't. As you get older and mature you realize that there is always someone out there that can take what you have at anytime. They can steal your car. steal your money. steal your identity. The only thing one can do is try to eliminate the "chances of opportunity". Oh, he's a victim but a victim of his own circumstance.
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Re: Javon Walker found Unconcious, Robbed in streets of Las Vegas

I certainly don't think Javon deserved to be beaten and robbed. But he put himself in a situation that exponentially increases the chances for all kinds of trouble to occur. He's nearly 30 years old and has been in the NFL for years. If he has half a brain he knows damn well that NOTHING good comes from drinking in clubs till sunrise and flashing wads of cash and jewelry. Players get in trouble all the time due to events surrounding this kind of stuff. Hell he even witnessed a teammate's murder out in front of a club after a night of partying. His decision to expose himself in this way shows massively poor judgment in my opinion. I'm glad he wasn't permanently injured and will make a full recovery in time for training camp, but I don't really feel sorry for him.
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Well...not saying I'm smart at all but I do try to avoid highways as much as possible only because of the number of vehicles on the highway. COMMON SENSE tells you that the more cars on the highway the better chance you have of getting into an accident.

Lets use your logic then. He should not have any problem walking into a biker bar and asking for a drink right? or walking into a gay bar and not getting hit on because it's not his fault for going into those places right or because he has a right as a citizen to go into those places.

Make no mistake...he was a victim. Some of us are saying that if he valued his money and his jewlery and his life he would not have:
1. been out all night. although it's his right to.
2. flashed his jewlery. Save it for a more upscale party.
3. SPRAYED PEOPLE WITH CHAMPAIGN. It kinda pisses people off.

Number three is what probably caused the beating. Yeah he was having fun with Mayweather but someone probably got sprayed that did not want to get sprayed and took it to another level.

You know it's funny. When your young you think you can defend yourself from anything until you find out you can't. As you get older and mature you realize that there is always someone out there that can take what you have at anytime. They can steal your car. steal your money. steal your identity. The only thing one can do is try to eliminate the "chances of opportunity". Oh, he's a victim but a victim of his own circumstance.

As you stated, he has a right to walk into any establishment he choses. He chose a bar. You have the right to go out and enjoy yourself without fearing harassment.

If we're going to condemn Walker for going out, wearing expensive jewelry that his earned money paid for, and buying thousands of dollars worth of champagne, that his earned money paid for, then where does it end? Darrent Williams wasn't draped in jewelry, but he was targeted, Sean Taylor was asleep in his house, but he was targeted, and Javon Walker was targeted as well. The point Im making is, its not a matter of where these athletes go versus where they don't go, they will be targets as long as they are earning millions and there are envious people out there that want a piece.

Javon Walker could've gone to that club in a tee and some jeans, once he was recognized, he became a target. Nothing he could do about it.
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As you stated, he has a right to walk into any establishment he choses. He chose a bar. You have the right to go out and enjoy yourself without fearing harassment.

If we're going to condemn Walker for going out, wearing expensive jewelry that his earned money paid for, and buying thousands of dollars worth of champagne, that his earned money paid for, then where does it end? Darrent Williams wasn't draped in jewelry, but he was targeted, Sean Taylor was asleep in his house, but he was targeted, and Javon Walker was targeted as well. The point Im making is, its not a matter of where these athletes go versus where they don't go, they will be targets as long as they are earning millions and there are envious people out there that want a piece.

Javon Walker could've gone to that club in a tee and some jeans, once he was recognized, he became a target. Nothing he could do about it.
Exactly. Therefore, as targets, they need to take every step possible to minimize their chances of becoming victims of this kind of stuff. No one said he doesn't have a right to buy jewelry and champagne and party like a rock star in a club. But is it smart? Hell no. Like I said, this type of behavior draws unnecessary attention and drastically increases the chances of a bad incident.
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Exactly. Therefore, as targets, they need to take every step possible to minimize their chances of becoming victims of this kind of stuff. No one said he doesn't have a right to buy jewelry and champagne and party like a rock star in a club. But is it smart? Hell no. Like I said, this type of behavior draws unnecessary attention and drastically increases the chances of a bad incident.
He draws attention to himself by being an athlete regardless of whether he has on a million dollars worth of jewelry or not.
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Well...not saying I'm smart at all but I do try to avoid highways as much as possible only because of the number of vehicles on the highway. COMMON SENSE tells you that the more cars on the highway the better chance you have of getting into an accident.

Lets use your logic then. He should not have any problem walking into a biker bar and asking for a drink right? or walking into a gay bar and not getting hit on because it's not his fault for going into those places right or because he has a right as a citizen to go into those places.

Make no mistake...he was a victim. Some of us are saying that if he valued his money and his jewlery and his life he would not have:
1. been out all night. although it's his right to.
2. flashed his jewlery. Save it for a more upscale party.
3. SPRAYED PEOPLE WITH CHAMPAIGN. It kinda pisses people off.

Number three is what probably caused the beating. Yeah he was having fun with Mayweather but someone probably got sprayed that did not want to get sprayed and took it to another level.

You know it's funny. When your young you think you can defend yourself from anything until you find out you can't. As you get older and mature you realize that there is always someone out there that can take what you have at anytime. They can steal your car. steal your money. steal your identity. The only thing one can do is try to eliminate the "chances of opportunity". Oh, he's a victim but a victim of his own circumstance.
LOL, highway driving is BY FAR safer than driving on surface streets. Highway Driving Safety (Cars: Road Rules)

So much for trusting your common sense.
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[quote=djnemo65;453594]LOL, highway driving is BY FAR safer than driving on surface streets. Highway Driving Safety (Cars: Road Rules)

So much for trusting your common sense.[/quote

Ok, most accidents occur within 5 miles of your residence also. So...common sense would tell you that if you make it past the 5mile mark your almost home free.....except for those living within 5 miles of where your driving. lol. I know it made no sense. lol.

I'm sure those statistics are correct only because no one lives right on the highway ie I95 as opposed to say RT1 or Rt66. What I was getting at was I avoid the highways on say days that traffic is high. A simple look at the high way prior to getting on lets you know maybe it's not a good idea to chance fate and be among the mass. If its not that busy then take the highway. All I'm saying is use common sense.

I also am saying it was his actions that brought the attention. If I were at the club I doubt I would have noticed who he was unless someone pointed him out and even then I am considerate enough not to bother people who are trying to have a nice night out. But...if I had champaign sprayed on me and I had gotten wet I think I would have been upset. I would not have beat him up though. but it certainly would have brought the attention he was seeking.
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