Jeremy Shockey is a Saint

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I know he's a headcase but I think Payton knows how to handle him. More importantly I think Payton knows how to use him. And so what if he didn't go to all that stuff. That wouldn't bother me.

Yeah, as long as he's not dancing who cares what he does on his own time, right?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, as long as he's not dancing who cares what he does on his own time, right?

lol nice

Sorry skinsfan69 but you're coming off like a big hypocrite here.

Shockey whined his way outta NY and was a problem child and you're fine with that.

Jason Taylor went on a TV show and that's a huge issue to you. I don't get it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

lol nice

Sorry skinsfan69 but you're coming off like a big hypocrite here.

Shockey whined his way outta NY and was a problem child and you're fine with that.

Jason Taylor went on a TV show and that's a huge issue to you. I don't get it.

How????? I just said that the Shockey trade was good for both teams. I know Shockey is a headcase and whines like a baby. But at least I know he wants to play football and will be playing football for several more years. He's not talking about walking away. Are we sure about that with Taylor? No! There is a chance he plays one more year, otherwise he wouldn't have said it. And he can tell Vinny and Dan all he wants. We all know people change their minds. Just ask Joe Gibbs.

The Taylor trade may or may not be good for us. Sorry but when a guy says he only wants to play one more year, then goes on a dancing show and doesn't show up for workouts that would concern the hell out of me. And from the looks of it, it concerned a lot of the NFL people too. Look at all the teams that need a pass rusher? How come a deal couldn't get done until training camp starts? That's cause no one wanted to take the risk and we probably would not have done if Daniels didn't go down.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How????? I just said that the Shockey trade was good for both teams. I know Shockey is a headcase and whines like a baby. But at least I know he wants to play football and will be playing football for several more years. He's not talking about walking away. Are we sure about that with Taylor? No! There is a chance he plays one more year, otherwise he wouldn't have said it. And he can tell Vinny and Dan all he wants. We all know people change their minds. Just ask Joe Gibbs.

The Taylor trade may or may not be good for us. Sorry but when a guy says he only wants to play one more year, then goes on a dancing show and doesn't show up for workouts that would concern the hell out of me. And from the looks of it, it concerned a lot of the NFL people too. Look at all the teams that need a pass rusher? How come a deal couldn't get done until training camp starts? That's cause no one wanted to take the risk and we probably would not have done if Daniels didn't go down.

So maybe Taylor changed his mind and has now decided he wants to play more than just one year

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So maybe Taylor changed his mind and has now decided he wants to play more than just one year

What I'm saying is the risk isn't worth it. Sorry but I just don't think we're a SB contending team. Not yet. If we were then I'd be 100% behind this move.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, as long as he's not dancing who cares what he does on his own time, right?

Oh come on. Give me a break. Mr. Twinkle Toes was missing team workouts because he wanted to win some silly ass dancing contest and promote is Hollywood career. Not going to see Bush and all that other stuff is totally different and you know it is.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Oh come on. Give me a break. Mr. Twinkle Toes was missing team workouts because he wanted to win some silly ass dancing contest and promote is Hollywood career. Not going to see Bush and all that other stuff is totally different and you know it is.

Yeah sure, whatever you say. You say it's fine for Shockey to miss team activities. You've even said it's even fine for Shawn Springs to skip team workouts, but for whatever reason you've decided to have a double standard for Jason Taylor. I don't know why, maybe you're upset you never made it as a Solid Gold dancer.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah sure, whatever you say. You say it's fine for Shockey to miss team activities. You've even said it's even fine for Shawn Springs to skip team workouts, but for whatever reason you've decided to have a double standard for Jason Taylor. I don't know why, maybe you're upset you never made it as a Solid Gold dancer.

lol!!!
(anyone see Lebron on Saturday Night Live last year when he did the solid gold dancer skit?)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah sure, whatever you say. You say it's fine for Shockey to miss team activities. You've even said it's even fine for Shawn Springs to skip team workouts, but for whatever reason you've decided to have a double standard for Jason Taylor. I don't know why, maybe you're upset you never made it as a Solid Gold dancer.

Sorry but I'm not giving up a high draft pick for a guy who skips workouts to go a dancing show and says he's only playing one more year. Why is that so hard for you to understand????? Cause from the looks of it a lot of the NFL GM's feel the same way I do. Otherwise someone would have already made a deal for him. Right?

Springs and Shockey are 100% commited to playing football. They haven't said they're only playing one more year. Right?? I guess that's my biggest issue. Not the dancing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but I'm not giving up a high draft pick for a guy who skips workouts to go a dancing show and says he's only playing one more year. Why is that so hard for you to understand????? Cause from the looks of it a lot of the NFL GM's feel the same way I do. Otherwise someone would have already made a deal for him. Right?

Springs and Shockey are 100% commited to playing football. They haven't said they're only playing one more year. Right?? I guess that's my biggest issue. Not the dancing.

I think you should be smart enough and a fan of football long enough to know that people always say things when they want out of a bad situation (Lance Briggs-I will never play for Chicago again; Chad Johnson-ditto for Cincy). He play one more year (so might Shockey, Toomer, Springs, Portis, etc. for all we know) or he may play 5 (I'm going with 3) but I don't understand why you're so adamant about what he said several weeks back but disregard what he just said yesterday (he will play out his contract).

Parcells was asking repeatedly, particularly during the first months of free agency and around the draft, for a first-round pick (at least). That's the main reason why everyone (including the Redskins) did not budge. However, the Redskins (and I'm sure others) did the smart thing by keeping open the possibility to trade for Taylor should the opportunity and need arise. And it did.

Ideally sure something like just a 4th would have been better than a 2nd and a 6th. However, it's not a bad move for the Redskins (or the Dolphins). I just think that if you have no problem with Springs and Shockey doing their own thing in the offseason then you really shouldn't with Taylor either.