Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-31-2008, 01:06 AM   #1
RMSkins
The Starter
 
RMSkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,066
Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag359 View Post
Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.
Since when did we start handing out starting jobs here in Washington based on a mediocre 8 starts from the season before? For you to say that Doughty "earned" the starting SS spot based solely on his mediocre 8 starts from last season and because Chris Cooley is hyping him absolutely blows my mind. Seriously, am I missing something here with Doughty that you're comapring him to LaRon Landry just based on tackles? Sure, he has a nice story: A hard working, over-achieving, I-AA kid who got a chance to play because of a tragedy. I can absolutely see why a lot of people like Doughty: he's a good guy, he's easy to root for, and he's someone who everyone wants to see succeed, but to me he's nothing more than a run stopping safety/special teams ace in this leauge. And no I am not looking for a "big name" player to replace Doughty. I fully expect Chris Horton or Kareem Moore to replace him somewhere in the near future. If Reed does well this year, as the starting SS for us, I will be the first person to admit that I was wrong about him, but unfortunately I have some serious reservations about Doughty being our starting SS this year.
RMSkins is offline  
Old 07-31-2008, 07:22 AM   #2
KLHJ2
Inactive
 
KLHJ2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DC Metro Area
Age: 47
Posts: 5,829
Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RMSkins View Post
Since when did we start handing out starting jobs here in Washington based on a mediocre 8 starts from the season before? For you to say that Doughty "earned" the starting SS spot based solely on his mediocre 8 starts from last season and because Chris Cooley is hyping him absolutely blows my mind. Seriously, am I missing something here with Doughty that you're comapring him to LaRon Landry just based on tackles? Sure, he has a nice story: A hard working, over-achieving, I-AA kid who got a chance to play because of a tragedy. I can absolutely see why a lot of people like Doughty: he's a good guy, he's easy to root for, and he's someone who everyone wants to see succeed, but to me he's nothing more than a run stopping safety/special teams ace in this leauge. And no I am not looking for a "big name" player to replace Doughty. I fully expect Chris Horton or Kareem Moore to replace him somewhere in the near future. If Reed does well this year, as the starting SS for us, I will be the first person to admit that I was wrong about him, but unfortunately I have some serious reservations about Doughty being our starting SS this year.
Start performing you mouth exercises. The coaching staff took notice of him before this offseason and before the Taylor tragedy. He was going to earn a position somewhere if not here. Because of the tragedy he got a starting gig here.

Food for thought. What round was Doughty drafted in? What rounds were Horton and Moore drafted in? If you answered 6, 7 and 6 then you would be correct. If you had a need to replace a 6th round safety, then why in the world would you wait until the 6th ad 7th round to find someone to eventually replace him?(don't answer that, it's rhetorical) If we needed someone to subplant Doughty, then they would have drafted a Safety earlier in the Draft. Furthermore, what is the purpose of drafting players in the 6th and 7th rounds?(more rhetoric) Depth.

Doughty did his damn job last season. Nothing more and nothing less. He made tackles when he was supposed to make tackles and defended passes when he needed to defend passes. People often get so star struck that they believe that they need a pro Bowl roster from top to bottom to win anything; sometimes they just need dedicated Football players who do their damn job. Doughty is dedicated and he does his damn job.
KLHJ2 is offline  
Old 07-31-2008, 09:37 AM   #3
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry View Post
People often get so star struck that they believe that they need a pro Bowl roster from top to bottom to win anything; sometimes they just need dedicated Football players who do their damn job. Doughty is dedicated and he does his damn job.
Awesome!
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 07-31-2008, 09:43 AM   #4
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 52
Posts: 99,832
Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry View Post
Start performing you mouth exercises. The coaching staff took notice of him before this offseason and before the Taylor tragedy. He was going to earn a position somewhere if not here. Because of the tragedy he got a starting gig here.

Food for thought. What round was Doughty drafted in? What rounds were Horton and Moore drafted in? If you answered 6, 7 and 6 then you would be correct. If you had a need to replace a 6th round safety, then why in the world would you wait until the 6th ad 7th round to find someone to eventually replace him?(don't answer that, it's rhetorical) If we needed someone to subplant Doughty, then they would have drafted a Safety earlier in the Draft. Furthermore, what is the purpose of drafting players in the 6th and 7th rounds?(more rhetoric) Depth.

Doughty did his damn job last season. Nothing more and nothing less. He made tackles when he was supposed to make tackles and defended passes when he needed to defend passes. People often get so star struck that they believe that they need a pro Bowl roster from top to bottom to win anything; sometimes they just need dedicated Football players who do their damn job. Doughty is dedicated and he does his damn job.
I was just about to post something similar.

I have no clue why some think that Moore or Horton are the answers when they were late round picks just like Doughty.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline  
Old 07-31-2008, 09:50 AM   #5
Paintrain
Pro Bowl
 
Paintrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
Posts: 5,006
Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
I was just about to post something similar.

I have no clue why some think that Moore or Horton are the answers when they were late round picks just like Doughty.
For the same reason they think that Brennan was brought in to supplant Campbell. Cuz they's stoopid..
__________________
Paintrain's Redskins Fandom
1981-2014

I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life!

Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier
Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman
Paintrain is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.51260 seconds with 11 queries